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Date:      Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:16:44 -0600
From:      Tony Kimball <alk@Think.COM>
To:        dennis@etinc.com
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ADSL
Message-ID:  <199603201716.LAA20371@compound>
In-Reply-To: <199603201653.LAA05552@etinc.com> (dennis@etinc.com)

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I promise not to respond any more in this thread, but I can't
resist clarifying my previous statements which were not clear enough
to communicate effectively.

   From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis)
   Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:53:41 -0500

   >99.9% of that bandwidth is going to go to VOD.  Me, I just want to
   >push the bottleneck out of my house into the ISP premises, then I'm happy.
   >If the ISP is inadequate to my needs, I'll shop for another ISP.

   Shop til you drop! we just added features that let an ISP FILTER OUT video
   traffic, because you can't let a someone paying $22. a month run CUSEEME
   on a 28.8 line for 6 hours.

VOD should never touch the net any more than POTS or Fax traffic.  I'm
talking about CATV replacement.  Cable is also technically obsolete,
although I expect it to take many more years to die (say 2008 maybe)
than ISDN will take because there is much more pre-existing plant and
the mean customer base is more conservative.  In the future net
services will be managed by the same people who do the phone and the
tv.  One bill each month.

   With T1 service
   priced at  $1000. a month, I don't think that the average Joe is going to 
   dump his dial-up connection for it even if the modem and the line are free.

T1 doesn't cost 1k/mo where I live, it costs $300.  Nor can an ISP
expect to charge T1 rates for a pipe that shares a T1 link with 1000
other users.  At that rate, you should ideally charge $0.30/mo, but
of course there are other cost factors which dominate.  That is why
you pay $20/mo for 7x24 dialup.  An ISP who fails to accomodate the
changing technical and economic realities of the situtation will not
compete effectively any more than a 2400baud ISP could compete today.
(But Tymenet still lives!)

I know full well that even the most rabid bleeders will not buy ADSL
today.  I'm one of them.  But this June they will.  And by June next,
the overwhelming technical superiority of ADSL and the economies of
scale will be pushing into the mainstream user base.

And no matter *what* I *promise* not to respond to any more replies.
Really, I do.  Follow-up to private mail or comp.dcom.isdn or somesuch.







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