Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:09:44 -0700 From: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: Lexi Winter <lexi@le-fay.org> Cc: pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 15.0 pkgbase, heads up: cron, lpr packages Message-ID: <02a9263437a5d2fbfa02cca36471bc61@bsdforge.com> In-Reply-To: <Zir22g9vThtlhldL@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> References: <ZimTWK-Y2v0u2Nq3@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> <2e3d33b6d98d1ab86686aeb75ea6e94c@bsdforge.com> <ZiroZFaBQDFXVKNI@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> <21a2c14ec1286aa2e8e2e84712db7228@bsdforge.com> <Zir22g9vThtlhldL@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org>
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On 2024-04-25 17:35, Lexi Winter wrote: > Chris: >> On 2024-04-25 16:33, Lexi Winter wrote: >> > it's not essential: many jails don't need cron, for example. i have >> > several micro (service) jails that only run a single binary and don't >> > need many things that would be considered essential on a normal >> > multi-user system. > >> Indeed. A jail is not a jail is not a jail. There is a myriad of tasks >> and services a jail can provide for. We run some 50+ for our needs. But >> I never mentioned jail in the context of "essential" services. So I'm >> not sure why we're talking about it. :) > > well, you asked why someone would want to remove cron -- 'building a > small jail' is an example of why someone might want to do that. Sure. Fair enough. :) I should have been more concise. > you > could already do that today by removing FreeBSD-utilities (and just > keeping FreeBSD-runtime) but the problem with that is FreeBSD-utilities > includes a lot of other things you might still want. so moving cron to > its own package allows the user to pick and choose what they want to > install with more granularity. > >> I'm puzzled as to the motivation to remove it from $BASE. > > to be clear, this only moves cron from one package (FreeBSD-utilities) > to another (FreeBSD-cron) -- it's not being removed from the base > system. FreeBSD-utilities is already considered a non-essential > package. I see. I guess I'm just not following the "pkg" way of assembling a complete system. I guess I should just continue using make(1) to build system images. Thank you very much, Lexi, for taking the time to clarify. :) I'll try to be less ignorant next time. ;) --Chrishome | help
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