Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:05:55 -0400 From: Jason Unovitch <jason.unovitch@gmail.com> To: Jason Helfman <jgh@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg integration spacewalk question Message-ID: <5240E573.1000900@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAMuy=%2BgQ1u6Z-ZAmoVp9jZd1BREy3hH7AgyrszKDNTF6xUQz_A@mail.gmail.com> References: <mailman.99.1379592003.55898.freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org> <523B9CAF.5060002@gmail.com> <CAMuy=%2BjfCSkKNmOj2Gs7YENsDF8LY%2BzsNSJTQK8KxKtH002%2Bvw@mail.gmail.com> <CAMuy=%2BgQ1u6Z-ZAmoVp9jZd1BREy3hH7AgyrszKDNTF6xUQz_A@mail.gmail.com>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000005050801020706090508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/23/2013 10:58 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Jason Helfman <jgh@freebsd.org=20 > <mailto:jgh@freebsd.org>> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Jason Unovitch > <jason.unovitch@gmail.com <mailto:jason.unovitch@gmail.com>> wrote:= > > Hi Jason, > Some of the functionality looks similar to what is in Puppet. > I've been working on finalizing a "how to" running Puppet open > source with its Dashboard on an Nginx/Ruby on Rails/MariaDB > back-end. Unfortunately I haven't tried any FreeBSD clients > yet and only have experience with Linux clients talking to the > Puppet on a FreeBSD server. If the pkg integration works as > well as integration with the Linux package mangers, declaring > having the latest versions of packages would be enough to > ensure everything got updated. With a private pkg repo that > gets vetted and updated when security issues come up I could > see this working rather well for ensuring tight configuration > control. Once I get around to testing some FreeBSD clients > I'll see how well pkg integration works out. > > If Puppet doesn't work for you, other options to look into are > Cfengine, Chef, and Salt. I've just stuck with the first tool > for the job that I tried as it worked well. I'd be more than > happy to point you to the how to guide when I'm done as I'm > planning on putting it up on the forums for anybody who can > benefit from it. > > Cheers, > Jason Unovitch > > > Hi Jason. > > I've run puppet for years, but have never run the 'dashboard,' > however I have run it recently taking advantage of 'pkg' > repositories. This is a different request, though. This is > on-demand. So I check a group of servers. I can work with that > group of servers, and proactively see how many packages are > out-of-date. I can then select those servers, and upgrade packages > of those specific systems. > > I believe part of this can be done in 'puppet,' but puppet is very > good at configuration management, and trigger based actions. I > have not found any part of puppet that shows it is a good tool for > patch management, or massive pkg deployment/upgrades. > > I may have missed where you can do this efficiently with puppet. > However, I would be happy to discover this, as well :) > > I've worked slightly with the others you had mentioned, but still > am unsure if they are as what I described what I am looking for. > > Nonetheless, I look forward to reading your forum post. > > -jgh > > > With a bit more investigation, it seems that the Puppet Enterprise=20 > Edition, which is non-free, seems it would be a good fit and has what=20 > I was looking for. It would just be a matter of making sure the pkg=20 > piece works with it. I would assume it does, as I've had that working=20 > on the standard edition. Thanks for your ideas, and I appreciate your=20 > time. > > -jgh > > --=20 > Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer > jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh=20 > <http://people.freebsd.org/%7Ejgh>; | The Power to Serve Jason, Even with the Dashboard it still is more for visibility rather than an=20 on demand ability to make changes. I'm still learning the interface,=20 and while it isn't as fully featured as the Enterprise Edition, it is=20 nice. I've dropped my guide on the forum at=20 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D42071. 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