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Date:      Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:16:46 -0800
From:      Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>
To:        Allan Jude <freebsd@allanjude.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting]
Message-ID:  <CA%2BhQ2%2Bips2zMyhQBDPRjYhYZZHvib9BCGexB011M4m152gkeoQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <53082EC5.3060709@allanjude.com>
References:  <20140218072821.GF34282@FreeBSD.org> <5308099F.4090706@freebsd.org> <53082EC5.3060709@allanjude.com>

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On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Allan Jude <freebsd@allanjude.com> wrote:

> On 2014-02-21 21:21, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > On 2/18/14, 3:28 PM, Wojciech A. Koszek wrote:
> >> (cross-posted message: eventual discussion let's keep on hackers@)
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> After being disappointed with the list of submitted FreeBSD ideas, I
> >> created
> >> my own Machiavellist vision of XXI-century FreeBSD. I paste it below.
> >> If you
> >> want to add something, it's here:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/BSD_XXI_Manifesto
> >>
> >> GSOC students could use this as an inspiration for their projects. The
> >> idea
> >> is to invite non-C, non-OS, non-kernel developers to help out with
> >> FreeBSD
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> ============
> >>
> >> BSDXXI manifesto
> > [nice stuff] removed for brevity
> >
> > I like all this..  I thought you meant XXI to mean the "FreeBSD's 21st
> > year"
> > but there is more than one year's worth of stuff there.
> >
> > I really suggest people seriously look at the list.. lots of really neat
> > ideas.
> > peole who are not necessarily C coders could do lots of this if we had a
> > project to gather people under to do it.
> > PCBSD people would be a core of interested people..
> >
> >
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> I can see the remote controlled installer being especially useful for
> 'appliance' type devices, like FreeNAS, pfSense, FUDO, etc.
>
>
yes i agree the approach is nice.
what is unfortunate is that sometimes these appliances
are in environments where there is no [open]
wireless access so one might consider bringing
two usb sticks -- the disk image and a wifi.



> How would your phone find the address of the machine once it boots off
> the USB, so you could access the web server?
>

I presume UPNP can come to help here.
Otherwise the appliance can try and encode the information with
one of the following methods (with a matching app on the phone):
- with a QR code on the screen, if it has one;
- playing tones on the speakers, if it has one;
- flashing leds (e.g. some USB keys have 'activity' leds)

cheers
luigi



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