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Date:      Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:00:01 -0700
From:      Michael Han <mikehan+^$#&*@mikehan.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: libc flaw: BIND 9 closes most holes but also opens one
Message-ID:  <20020630190001.L31022@giles.mikehan.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020629180311.02b5b2d0@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 06:06:58PM -0600
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020629153253.02e88ef0@localhost> <200206282259.QAA03790@lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020629123101.02ed2df0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20020629153253.02e88ef0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20020629154457.02fafb00@localhost> <3D1E2D22.EBCE8199@FreeBSD.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020629180311.02b5b2d0@localhost>

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 06:06:58PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 03:56 PM 6/29/2002, Doug Barton wrote:
> 
> >You quoted the second page. The URL I left in the quotation above is the
> >announcement for 8.2.6, which says:
> >
> >Highlights vs. 8.2.5
> >        Security Fix libbind.  All applications linked against libbind
> >        need to relinked.
> 
> So? That's not the version of libbind that's in 9.2.1. The version
> in 9.2.1 is vulnerable; I've checked the source.

Brett, your postings suggest that you don't understand the nature of
the bug and libbind. libbind is an optional component which the vast
majority of FreeBSD users would not have installed on their systems.
Bind itself does not link to it in the default installation, and under
no circumstances is the Bind named server a vector for risk. Only by
installing the vulnerable libbind and linking software against it
(this would not be the default behavior of any normally
ported/portable software) can an installation of Bind introduce risk.

libbind is a *replacement* library (or it's possible that it could
serve as the only implementation on a truly ancient and backwards
system) providing name service resolution to applications that need
that. Normally these services are gotten from the native C library,
libc. It takes some serious doing to cause any software on your system
to be at risk because of a Bind installation, hence several rather
patient people trying to explain that you're greatly exaggerating the
risk and causing needless confusion.
-- 
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coffee achiever                              San Francisco, California
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