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Date:      Thu, 27 May 1999 18:03:14 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      John K <john@volvo.se>
To:        doehrm@aubi.de
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Windows NT
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSD/.3.91.990527175543.19559A-100000@nike.volvo.se>
In-Reply-To: <AB06BBFD8AFBD111B07600805FCB119224269E@EXCHANGE.aubi.de>

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Hi

Yes, i can definatly see a use for Windows NT for some applications
that are not (yet ?) available on other systems. I want to be openminded
and choose a solution that suits me. Whatever the OS.
I don´t administer any machines (except for our DNS´s, and NT is horrible 
at that) 
It´s also a personal thing, and i relly like the idea of running free 
software

anyway , with nothing important said as usual, im on my way home now

take care all
/john

On Thu, 27 May 1999, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Markus_D=F6hr?= wrote:

> > > I'm not trying to praise NT - just wanting some information
> > > explaining why people should choose one OS over another.
> 
> I can tell you we're running our SAP R/3 installation on NT servers with an
> average uptime of 60 days and above. Most reboots are caused by updates of DB
> and/or system, not due to crashes. I didn't believe before that NT is as
> reliable as it appears. 
> 
> IMHO the main reason, why people choose NT for p. ex. webserver is the
> availability of 'ready-to-install' software packages for e-commerce applications
> etc. Although all the *BSD and *nix are obviously much more stable and much
> faster, many companies don't have any specific knowledge of programming HTML nor
> PHP-3. They'd like to have a ready solution for their need, only customization
> has to be done, no real programming and adaption. They want install on monday
> and run productive at thursday. 
> 
> It don't believe NT is as realiable as using it for an e-commerce solution, the
> security holes in IIS are too bad and make me sick believing that it's secure.
> On the other hand for making NT real secure, you need very much knowledge, I
> think much more, than on any *nix, because of the proprietary binary-only
> registry database, the file system rights and the unexpected behaviour when
> chainging something and the worse: lack of debugging errors. 
> 
> People always think that NT is easier in administration - a real fallacy. The
> complexity is hidden behind a nice point-and-klick-gui but in the depth it's
> much more complicated than any other OS I know. If there are problems, you
> always has to stand up, go to the console and try do find out what's goin'
> wrong. No remote administration possible without buying expensive packages (SMS,
> ResourceKit etc.). Try to administer NT over a 28.8 Modem and you better drive
> 50 miles before stopping and starting services remotely. It's worse, really
> worse.
> 
> 
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