Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:04:45 +0400 From: Pavel Timofeev <timp87@gmail.com> To: Martin Sugioarto <martin@sugioarto.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x.0 RELASE isn't for production. Message-ID: <CAAoTqfsyC=Zzct9cp0zSTS7YUFwXpYUQxrBjUuDB3mvVbFq3xw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20111015093159.3679afd6@zelda.sugioarto.com> References: <CAAoTqfsKhTN=UCL3HY=gR70qeL_j6G2=ETE9LDXSWeXymdOZoA@mail.gmail.com> <20111015093159.3679afd6@zelda.sugioarto.com>
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2011/10/15 Martin Sugioarto <martin@sugioarto.com> > Am Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:55:28 +0400 > schrieb Pavel Timofeev <timp87@gmail.com>: > > > That's what most people think. > > Hi! > > I'm not thinking this. This is made up by users who only adapt slowly > to changes and features. Look at the whole crowd which got furious about > the new Microsoft Office. I tell you, in one year, no one will cry about > it anymore. Sometimes, I feel like I am the only who is happy about good > ideas, even when they change something drastically. The most people > think "Whoa... I have to learn again!"... and then silently accept it > when it is very late, because everyone else already migrated. > No, i don't care about new features or big changes. I love it! I care about bugs, that people finds while BETA/RC. > > This has nothing to do with release quality, because the efforts to > make a production release of x.0 are much higher, in my opinion. So the > quality is generally better, if you have enough time to make this > release. > > For me the worst FreeBSD release ever was 5.3. Even 5.0 BETAs worked > better on my hardware. I also stopped using FreeBSD at that time until > 7.0 BETAs arrived. > > > And when BETA/RC time comes users rush like mad to test it. And they > > find errors and bugs. Writing PR, emails and even !pathes! > > But the lion's share of these pathes doesn't get into the coming BETA > > or RC. > > Yes. I'm waiting for my /sbin/dump fix to get verified and committed. > It's really disappointing to see the next release without a functioning > backup possibility (for my configuration here). > kern/160678? A good example. I give 5$ that this fix won't be in 9.0 RELEASE =) I know a few other important PRs that won't be in 9.0 RELEASE. Thats why I wrote initial email. > Fortunately, I don't see a fixed release date, yet. I hope the > developers fix as much as possible even when we see 9.0R in late 2012. > > -- > Martin >
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