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Date:      Sun, 19 May 2002 02:30:28 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The road ahead?
Message-ID:  <p0511171cb90c9c2dbde0@[10.9.8.215]>
In-Reply-To: <3CE6E8ED.84E431F@mindspring.com>
References:  <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org>	 <20020516151801.A47974@energyhq.homeip.net>	 <20020516172853.A7750@daemon.tisys.org>	 <3CE40759.7C584101@mindspring.com>	 <20020516220616.A51305@energyhq.homeip.net>	 <3CE43D08.1FDBF0A3@mindspring.com>	 <20020517163624.GB9697@hades.hell.gr>	 <3CE58F73.1A7F50AF@mindspring.com>	 <p05111717b90b4c01f392@[10.9.8.215]>	 <15589.63655.94078.482179@guru.mired.org>	 <3CE61284.80ADD241@mindspring.com> <15590.58578.811389.223502@guru.mired.org> <3CE6E8ED.84E431F@mindspring.com>

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At 4:51 PM -0700 2002/05/18, Terry Lambert wrote:

>  Can't do a graceful shutdown without a button.
>
>  I actually would be uncomfortable with something that didn't have
>  an activation sequence of some kind that didn't include something
>  that you normally don't do (plugging/unplugging is supposed to be
>  limited to installation and deinstallation, not activation and
>  deactivation).

	I can't think of a VCR, DVD, or cable box that operates this way. 
All consumer electronics devices I know of are capable of losing 
power and rebooting cleanly.  Consumer electronic devices that can't 
take this sort situation simply don't survive in the business.

>  Actually, you don't have to do the DNS thing, if you can do the
>  DNSUPDAT thing.  So:
>
>  o	Find the gateway
>  o	Find your IP
>  o	Find the name server from the root
>  o	Reverse lookup your IP to get the domain name
>  o	Use the DNS information based on your role to
>  	configure yourself

	This assumes that reverse DNS is set up correctly.  It also 
assumes that you can get through the firewall.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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