Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 08:51:52 -0400 From: Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> Cc: Alex Thomas <karlthane@gmail.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 11-Alpha to 11-Beta rewrite card or buildworld Message-ID: <271F1F0A-B8B5-4A13-8BB8-3C5323622CDD@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <20160711050802.4743251.48194.8248@gmail.com> References: <CABMOuVdW9SFFJineYtv6hvYypgRwBP9dEn-OKvb9xL2_XAXhvQ@mail.gmail.com> <CABMOuVeXnKrF52L-Xo1RYjdYhN8eoWOo8nLShxHn-TteAnyObg@mail.gmail.com> <CABMOuVd2z-3Do98C0kbDPXowvvP7-j=XMZ-x3ED=A37w=zPkYA@mail.gmail.com> <CABMOuVc%2BiHL4GLw=4BDE=%2B1ZKfw3wzxQRyJrO5OdNbw4ets-Xw@mail.gmail.com> <4876c9e05d5.30c7197a@mail.schwarzes.net> <CABMOuVfEefQ8BAxtUNrAUwTnwkq-4dN4T=X-aOWutgUec-p7Rw@mail.gmail.com> <20160711050802.4743251.48194.8248@gmail.com>
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On Jul 11, 2016, at 1:08 AM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry about the top post.=20
>=20
> If your not trying to learn about the build process and=E2=80=8E you =
don't have a custom build requirement, why not use a prebuilt image move =
on to validating the running OS instead of repeating what the build =
server does?
>=20
> I would think there is more value in finding anomalies in your =
favorite applications. =46rom my understanding there have been big =
changes to the fundamentals of the OS (i.e hard float, compiler =
upgrades, byte alignments etc).
Speaking for myself, I just find the build{world,kernel} + =
install{kernel,world} + mergemaster sequence of updating the system a =
much more ingrained and normal method of doing things. It seems =
"natural" to me to update my FreeBSD/arm systems the same way I update =
my FreeBSD/amd64 systems.
Besides, if I overwrote my SD card with a new install image, I'd lose =
all my settings (e.g., users, custom /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/ =
repository, swap partition on SD card, /etc/fstab changes to make /tmp =
bigger[*], etc.). It's more natural for me to use the standard update =
technique than redo those changes from scratch each time I update the =
OS. (I'm using SaltStack to configure more and more, but even getting a =
minion set up means it's easier to update the standard way than start =
with a fresh install image and have to re-bootstrap SaltStack.)
Cheers,
Paul.
[*] The default /tmp size in the install images seems too small to build =
the OS natively on FreeBSD/arm nowadays. Plus, I have to have swap =
enabled to be able to do a successful installworld.
> =20
>=20
> Russ
>=20
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Koodo network.
> Original Message =20
> From: Alex Thomas
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:01 PM
> To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: 11-Alpha to 11-Beta rewrite card or buildworld
>=20
> On Jul 10, 2016 7:48 PM, "Andreas Schwarz" <freebsd.asc@strcmp.org> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> On 10.07.16, Alex Thomas wrote:
>>=20
>>> Started playing around on a Raspberry Pi 2, it has 11-Alpha5 saw =
that
> Beta1
>>> is out. Is it better to rewrite the card and start over, or take the
> couple
>>> of days to do buildworld/buildkernel?
>>=20
>> It's not a couple of days, it's ~20 hours (and ~7h more if you build =
the
>> toolchain before).
>>=20
>> -asc
>>=20
>=20
> I remember building Gentoo on an AMD K6II and it basically taking all
> weekend, so that is why I figured couple of days.
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