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Date:      Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:17:22 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Jeffrey S. Sharp" <jss@subatomix.com>
To:        Mischa Peters <mischa.peters@cacheflow.com>
Cc:        W Gerald Hicks <jhix@mindspring.com>, Albert Yang <albert@achtung.com>, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The heart of the problem
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007250928370.8871-100000@lepton.subatomix.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000725161944.B56036@high5.net>

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Mischa Peters wrote:
> 
> > * I believe that the current Pico kit needs to be thrown out and replaced
> > with something entirely new.
> 
> Personaly I think all the small bsd variants should be consolidated into one
> small bsd version. I have seen a lot of people now on this list that either
> have build their own, or modified pico/tiny bsd.
> 
> And I think this energy can kick a lot more a** if we put everything
> together in a way that most of the us can get out of it what they want.
> A good router,cable,dialup,terminal,bridge version.
> 
> > * Having made my own "Tiny" variant, I believe that I have a darn good
> > candidate for 'something entirely new'. :)
> 
> :))

One reason I'll argue my kit is a darn good candidate is that AFAIK, it is
built to be extensible.  It is rather easy to support multiple, different
ways of building a small FreeBSD distro.  The user selects a method by
using the appropriate target_type directive in a device config file.  For
instance:

target_type=disk	# Build images for standard disks
target_type=cd-rom	# Build iso images
target_type=pxe		# You get the idea

Other options in the dev conf file are dependent on the target_type.  For
instance, target_type=disk enables directives to specify how a disk should
be sliced and labeled, whereas target_type=cd-rom might support directives
to change how the build system interacts with the mkisofs program.

The programmer wishing to add a target_type need only add another case for
target_type in the config script.

> > * I think that the small FreeBSD community, Pico, Tiny, or whatever
> > exactly I would be the captain of needs more recognition by the outside
> > world than Pico is currently getting.  This means we need a better
> > website, possibly accessible at its own domain name, and someone who will
> > be the official maintainer of that.
> 
> I wouldn't mind hosting that domain, my own servers are co-located at an ISP
> in the Netherlands which is connected with a 34MB conenction to the dutch
> internet exchange.

A couple of people have offered.  Once we straighten out our current
situation, it'll be time to find some server space.

> All for it...
> 
> Maybe there could be a democratic vote somewhere, where people can add them
> to a list of possible candidates to become the leader of this bunch ;)
> And the rest of the list can go there and vote... or is this to democratic?
> ;))

That sounds like a good idea.  Would anyone be willing to provide
that?  If not, we can just use this list to declare candidacy and/or vote.

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Jeffrey S. Sharp   (XorAxAx)
jss@subatomix.com

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