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Date:      Thu, 31 May 2012 15:35:42 +0200
From:      Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd>
To:        Claus Guttesen <kometen@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <4FC773AE.1030906@my.gd>
In-Reply-To: <CAAKtYMAREyxKXSU1LtDRWvjH8XnY-CQNfBRKmuXvNddT3GmXaw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 5/31/12 1:20 PM, Claus Guttesen wrote:
>>>> A regular debian update is 5 minutes + reboot
>>>> A regular FBSD update is about 1.5 hour + 3 reboots (after
>>>> installkernel, installworld, rebuild of ports)
>>>
>>> But how often do you need to
>>
>> As a matter of fact, too often, that's te problem.
>>
>> We have > 800 servers and I can't argue that debian's update process is much simpler and faster.
> 
> Take a look at freebsd-update:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html.
> This tracks release.
> 

As I just replied to an off-list mail, we can't use binary upgrades because:


1/ we use custom kernels with a lot of the stuff stripped

2/ we pass custom options to ports, which excludes pre-compiled packages

3/ we don't track release, I'm trying to move our boxes away from it so
we can get faster patches, we track 8-STABLE on most boxes



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