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Date:      Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:46:55 -0500
From:      Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
To:        Allen Campbell <allenc@verinet.com>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: On Desktops and defaults
Message-ID:  <36B8D1DF.DBBDEFB7@aei.ca>
References:  <199902021904.MAA07243@usr05.primenet.com> <36B7E152.8C1364FC@verinet.com>

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Allen Campbell wrote:
> 
> Rely on the meritocracy here; If someone 'out there' can put together a
> decent Blackbox or WindowMaker desktop which a consensus of FreeBSD can
> live with, more power to 'em.  The work should be a peer with anything
> else offered to the user, KDE or otherwise.  The port/packages system is
> already flexible enough to deal with this.  Standards should be suitably
> high however.
> 
> --
>   Allen Campbell       |  Lurking at the bottom of the
>   allenc@verinet.com   |   gravity well, getting old.
>
I don't really see why you need to put app by default. The user simply
need to try the port collection if he need something. Anyway, he _will_
need an application wich is not in your default window manager, so he
will try to use the ports.
I think the only thing FreeBSD need is a nice window manager installed
by default.
"Do you want to install Blackbox, the default FreeBSD window manager?"
Blackbox would be the better choice. It's incredibly fast, stable, nice
etc..

http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Compare/AltOS/ss04.html
<twm screenshot>
"Out of the box, FreeBSD isn't nearly as pretty as Red Hat Linux."
</twm screenshot>
...

A default window manager, and a doc on how to use the port collection
that pop-up after the first start of Xwindow would be nice to.
"Welcome to FreeBSD. You are currently using X-Window and Blackbox. If
you need applications, use the Port Collections, a ..."

The first time I installed freebsd, I did not want it to install me any
app that I did not need.
For a blackbox screenshot:
http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/freebsd/graphic/blackbox.jpg
Blackbox home page.
http://blackbox.wiw.org/
Thank You
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