Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 8:55:00 -0600 From: <akess@valis.homeunix.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-current Digest, Vol 277, Issue 6 Message-ID: <200901141456.n0EEu05O002497@valis.homeunix.org>
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We should go to the zoo. :) -----Original Message----- From: freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org Subj: freebsd-current Digest, Vol 277, Issue 6 Date: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:00 am Size: 4K To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Send freebsd-current mailing list submissions to freebsd-current@freebsd.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org You can reach the person managing the list at freebsd-current-owner@freebsd.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of freebsd-current digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Brooks Davis) 2. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Maxim Sobolev) 3. Re: About bwi (Paul B. Mahol) 4. Re: [RFC]: flex/lex update (Thomas Dickey) 5. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Pegasus Mc Cleaft) 6. Re: fstab type "dp" (Jeremie Le Hen) 7. Re: fstab type "dp" (Max Laier) 8. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Maxim Sobolev) 9. Re: GEOM and moving to CURRENT from 7.1 (Ben Kaduk) 10. Re: GEOM and moving to CURRENT from 7.1 (Ben Kaduk) 11. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Adrian Chadd) 12. Re: hints on setting up usb cdma modem? (Rohit Tripathi) 13. Question about panic in brelse() (Christoph Mallon) 14. _rw_wlock_hard: recursing but non-recursive rw radix node head @ /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:831 (Yuriy Tsibizov) 15. INET6 tcp md5 signature (Guli) 16. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Maxim Sobolev) 17. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Roman Divacky) 18. Re: fstab type "dp" (Doug Barton) 19. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Doug Barton) 20. Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) (Christoph Mallon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:20:23 -0600 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) To: Eitan Adler <eitanadlerlist@gmail.com> Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@math.missouri.edu>, Michel Talon <talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090113222023.GA51810@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 05:04:21PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Smells like FUD to me. In all of my reading, I have never seen such a > > claim. There may be some GPLv3 issues, but I seriously doubt this is > > one. > Which leads to my next question: why not upgrade? Given the number of FreeBSD using companies who are completely banned the presence of GPLv3 source from their sites, improvements would have to be extremely compelling and there would have to be a straight forward way to produce snapshots of the src tree with out any GPLv3 components as well as a simple way to build said source tree with a non-GPLv3 compiler. -- Brooks -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/attachments/20090113/8bebfee2/attachment-0001.pgp ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:08:06 -0800 From: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) To: Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Eitan Adler <eitanadlerlist@gmail.com>, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@math.missouri.edu>, Michel Talon <talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: <496D1ED6.4090202@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Brooks Davis wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 05:04:21PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: >>> Smells like FUD to me. In all of my reading, I have never seen such a >>> claim. There may be some GPLv3 issues, but I seriously doubt this is >>> one. >> Which leads to my next question: why not upgrade? > > Given the number of FreeBSD using companies who are completely banned the > presence of GPLv3 source from their sites, improvements would have to > be extremely compelling and there would have to be a straight forward > way to produce snapshots of the src tree with out any GPLv3 components > as well as a simple way to build said source tree with a non-GPLv3 > compiler. Crazy idea perhaps, but can we make gcc 4.3 (as well as other GPLv3 components) an opt-in, just like we used to have crypto parts in the good old days when US was trying to limit export of this technology? Then can mak --- message truncated ---
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