Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:37:48 -0700 From: "Russell L. Carter" <rcarter@pinyon.org> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster? Message-ID: <a71830a6-b759-31a5-55f2-6936801be920@pinyon.org> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1ukz_gn3Ny4J52qoq0KjGmvDxLEZrBenXPA7o-YC%2BHSyg@mail.gmail.com> References: <81D84A650858BA40BF6936408052E6BC0138263988@msgdb11.utad.utoledo.edu> <k20i-pniy-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20170929182305.GE86601@home.opsec.eu> <20170929183448.GA175@gmail.com> <77334fc4-b64e-45ed-a443-4076e47acee3@BY2NAM03FT029.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com> <BN6PR2001MB173012B1DBBC7BB0A900DAA2807E0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <COL004-MC4F55p68V8z000ac00b@COL004-MC4F55.hotmail.com> <BN6PR2001MB17309E4F64000C0C00DA086D807F0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <CAN6yY1ukz_gn3Ny4J52qoq0KjGmvDxLEZrBenXPA7o-YC%2BHSyg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 09/30/17 10:06, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote: > [...] > As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not > resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move from > FreeBSD after an using it for over 2 decades. I certainly hope that this is > not what happens. If minimizing the size of the physical machines you have access to is a hard constraint, then a remote binary package linux distro would definitely decrease your pain level. However, the trade-off is someone else selecting your package options. (NB: I haven't used arch) Indeed, my disposable travel laptop is debian. Yet I try doing as much real work as I can on FreeBSD because the packaging system is world class flexible. I *loved*, possibly too much, the ability to nuke kerberos out of my world, both base OS and packages. Try doing that on debian. But FreeBSD packaging flexibility comes at a cost, and that's mainly cpu and memory when running poudriere. In these days of giant && cheap && reasonably fast USB storage, I have a hard time giving credence to disk usage complaints. For FreeBSD's packaging flexibility, I am willing to invest what in real dollars is a fraction of what we were spending in the middle '90s just to get adequate hardware to run FreeBSD. It really doesn't take much. I've given away half a dozen boxes for free to people over the last 10 years, that would support poudriere just fine (2-4 threads, 8-16GB) because used white boxes seem to have nearly no retrievable value. Not an elegant physical package like a laptop, but *who cares*. I am piping up because when I was restarting using FreeBSD after many years (refugee from debian), you were an invaluable source of help to me, and of course quite a few others. It would be sad to lose your positive contributions to the community over this issue. All the best, Russell > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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