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Date:      Tue, 03 Mar 1998 16:42:56 -0800 (PST)
From:      Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
To:        dannyman <dannyman@sasquatch.dannyland.org>
Cc:        "Jordan K.Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, "John S.Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net>, Mikael Karpberg <karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>, Shawn Leas <sleas@mn26hp6.honeywell.com>
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD Fund
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980303164256.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
In-Reply-To: <19980303171106.18217@urh.uiuc.edu>

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On 03-Mar-98 dannyman wrote:
 
...
> given that Windows95 costs like $80 or something at the store, i would
> expect
> better educated people who are more heavily in to computers would think
> FreeBSD is worth a little more than $10.

If this argument had any validity, DOS would have disapeared in 1985 and
Bill Gates would have either been selling used cars, running for Congress,
or both.

> I'm thinking $50, but that's because I'm a poor college student.

Too much money.  My military monthly salary was $27.50.
I would like the ``donate as much as you like'' approach, but that will not
be too effective.  Esablish a scale:
10-20-30-50-corporate-contributor-lifetime or some such list.

Another idea:  ``Round-Up''

In addition, and in parallel with any other program: Any one who sellls
FreeBSD stuff (WC?) estabishes a round-up program.  When you buy a CD for
29.95 (is this the price?  I have no clue), you can tell the order taker
(or enter into the web form, whatever) to round up your order to cost+N.
N goes directly to FreeBSD.  A bit more of book-keeping but the vendor gets
to display a special logo, the user is caught with his/her hand literally
in their pocket (cannot say ``I do not have it'' :-), and FreeBSD gets more
money.

> Reluctant, lazy and indifferent is not yet our userbase.  While an option
> in
> sysinstall that promises tote bags and plush demons would be ideal, I
> think
> a lot of us would at least for the time being be content with an SSL web
> form
> where we plug in our credit card number.

I beg to differ.  In any social group, there is a small active minority, a
large passive majority, and (in most cultures) a minor disruptive fringe
group.  I bet you not all half million FreeBSD users contribute code,
purchase CDs, report bugs, or do anything except take what is offered for
free and use it.

> Let's get the walking down before we start running flat out on this eh?
>:)

Of course.  We need:

a. Ownership/Board-of-Directors decision that this is what they want to do.
b. Control structure; Who collects the money, who supervises the money, who
   disburses the money.
c. Guidelines;  What we will not do, what we will not accept, what
   we will.
d. Collection Plan:  This is what we are going to do to get the money
e. Disbursement Plan:  Here is how we will spend the money
f. Imlepemntation
g. Activation and feedback analysis
h. Enahancements

Since this is getting serious:

a.  Is this list the best forum for this discussion?
b.  I have a list of reservations about the whole thing.  Not to say I
    oppose it, but there are issues that should be surfaced.


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Sincerely Yours, 

Simon Shapiro
Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG                      Voice:   503.799.2313

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