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Date:      Thu, 05 Sep 2002 00:02:23 -0700
From:      Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail? 
Message-ID:  <200209050702.g8572S190003@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>

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Neal E Westfall <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> writes:
> On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote:
>> Neal E Westfall <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> writes:
>> > Basically, its not that "God" cannot be rationally proven as much as
>> > the fact that without God, nothing could be proven at all.  Hence,
>> > God is proven from the impossibility of the contrary.  It is
>> > unreasonable to reject that which is the foundation for everything
>> > else.
>> 
>> The fact that a proof either way is necessary, and takes precedence
>> over the obvious and observable, is how Mankind got -into- this mess in
>> the first place. ;)
>
> I never said that proof was *necessary*, at least not from a logical
> standpoint.  But given that man is in intellectual darkness and
> attempts to "suppress the truth in unrighteousness" it becomes
> necessary to remove self-imposed stumbling blocks that prevent him
> from seeing the truth.  ;-)

This implies that man can see the stumbling blocks in order to remove
them. Typically the first thing that has to be done is to teach man
a course in sight, before man can see the stumbling blocks man has to
remove. 

Then the question becomes how to remove them.
------
Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
>>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<<

There is a saying: "I believe it because it is impossible"
If you make any study of people in a state of what they are
pleased to call belief, you will find that you can usually 
best describe them by the saying:
           "My belief has made me impossible."






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