Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:07:26 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, James Raynard <jraynard@demon.co.uk> Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: merging of various /usr/src/contrib things to -stable; wanted? Message-ID: <19980215150726.07686@klemm.gtn.com> In-Reply-To: <4904.887548620@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 05:17:00AM -0800 References: <19980215125251.26042@demon.co.uk> <4904.887548620@time.cdrom.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 05:17:00AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > No offence taken :-) However, I'd advise against importing gawk into
> > -stable as it doesn't work properly (the cnews expiry scripts break it,
> > for example) and the GNU maintainer hasn't replied to my bug report of
> > 3 months ago.
>[...]
> However, we've still got some other candidates to think about...
> Here's /usr/src/contrib from -stable:
>
> CVS gcc libg++ opie traceroute
> bind gdb libgmp pnpinfo
> bison global libpcap tcpdump
> cpio gperf libreadline texinfo
> cvs groff nvi top
>
> And from -current:
>
> CVS diff ipfilter opie top
> awk gcc libg++ patch traceroute
> bind gdb libgmp pnpinfo
> bison global libpcap tcl
> cpio gperf libreadline tcpdump
> cvs groff nvi texinfo
>
> As you can see we've added awk (which gets nixed), diff, ipfilter,
> patch and tcl (aiee! ;). We've also substantially changed bind,
> gdb, cvs and other various GNUtils here.
I think we should try only to include things from -current that
- fix bugs in -STABLE,
- fix security holes in -STABLE,
- really enhance functionality, in areas where FreeBSD is
1st choice: ISP business, reliable network stack with
nice utilities (traceroute, tcpdump), but only if it was
tested in -current over a period of 1-2 months,
- enhance possibility to migrate from Linux to BSD.
(You know why Bill included that Novell to NT user/group
migration tools .. ;-)
to make sure, that we don't break -STABLE. Now I'm in the internet
business as well and know that stability is most wanted over nifty
features, that are fine on the first look, but might break things
after a while.
>From my point of view I'd vote, to update:
- bind
- tcpdump
- traceroute
And what would be very nice to get fixed is the problem with
the scsi driver that causes amanda to fail. I have the problem
here with -current, but I think this is also true for -stable.
I'm currently at work trying to migrate from linux servers to
FreeBSD servers.
And things like a network backup and perhaps compatibility to
Linux style account management commands would be crucial for
this.
I'm currently in the situation, that people start to trust me, that
FreeBSD would offer advantages, but the folks have written so many
admin scripts that completely rely on the SYSVish
{user,group}{add,del,mod) utilities. And a working network backup
solution is crucial for us.
I think these areas would be worth to bring into 2.2.6 to help
people to migrate to FreeBSD even if they started with *nux.
Andreas ///
--
Andreas Klemm
powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD''
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?19980215150726.07686>