Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:21:43 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> To: Johann Kois <jkois@freebsd.org> Cc: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>, doc-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20110309102143.GC78089@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <4D7750A0.6010705@FreeBSD.org> References: <201103081746.p28HkCh0017043@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110308175140.GZ78089@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <4D76746A.6050801@FreeBSD.org> <BFC9B0C9-5BB3-477A-87F9-AE3BBB862229@elvandar.org> <4D7750A0.6010705@FreeBSD.org>
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--7aLPEWHc39Q74tn2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:04:16AM +0100, Johann Kois wrote: > On 08.03.2011 19:48, Remko Lodder wrote: > >=20 > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Johann Kois wrote: > >=20 > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 03/08/2011 18:51, Kostik Belousov wrote: > >>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 05:46:12PM +0000, Johann Kois wrote: > >>>> jkois 2011-03-08 17:46:12 UTC > >>>> > >>>> FreeBSD doc repository > >>>> > >>>> Modified files: > >>>> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig chapter.sgml=20 > >>>> Log: > >>>> PR: docs/150124 > >>>> > >>>> Fix/Update the instructions on "how to build a custom kernel". > >>>> > >>>> - The fact that you need the whole source tree for this is well hid= den at the moment. > >>> I do not believe this is true. Kernel should not have dependencies > >>> outside sys/. > >> > >> Well that was definitely true in the old days. But things have changed > >> a couple of years ago. > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbf= ullook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml > >> (Revision 1.157). > >> > >> Or http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D75864 > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> > >> jkois > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > With Kostik's response included; should we go for the 'alternatively to= only build the kernel do the "old" mumbojumbo' ? > >=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > what about some hard facts instead of "...may work..." "...should > work..." and "...I believe..."? ;-) >=20 Hard fact is that it worked for me ~ 1 month ago, when I built HEAD kernel on stable/8 old way. I did not tried it since new binutils were imported, since now this build method for HEAD requires HEAD as base system. This was the reason for 'should' language. It does work for me on stable/8 right now. > Can we guarantee 100 % that the "traditional method" still works? If > not, then the "traditional way" should stay where it is now (in the > developers handbook): >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kern= elbuild.html: >=20 > "Up to version 4.X of FreeBSD this was the recommended way to build a > new kernel. It can still be used on newer versions (instead of the > ?buildkernel? target of the toplevel /usr/src/ makefiles). Building the > kernel this way may be useful when working on the kernel code and it may > actually be faster than the ?New? procedure when only a single option or > two were tweaked in the kernel configuration file. On the other hand, it > might lead to unexpected kernel build breakage when used by beginners on > newer versions of FreeBSD." >=20 > And the handbook (targeted not only but especially at new/less > experienced users) should describe the method we have recommended for > the last 5 years now (in the handbook and in the developers-handbook). >=20 > Regards. >=20 > jkois >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Johann Kois > jkois(at)FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD Documentation Project > FreeBSD German Documentation Project - https://doc.bsdgroup.de > _______________________________________________ > cvs-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --7aLPEWHc39Q74tn2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk13VLYACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4htbQCfRthxcf2IBF/FhRvjKgfKMejE orsAn19lLosMECYGDAisREHSMx293JUa =Y5vm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7aLPEWHc39Q74tn2--
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