Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:35:02 -0800 From: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: Charlie Kester <corky1951@comcast.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re changing from vista Message-ID: <20081117053502.7cc3827c@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <20081116222222.J26735@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <491D59D3.8080809@spansurf.com> <20081114203914.W14337@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <491DDD56.1040001@ccstores.com> <20081114225626.GA56663@icarus.home.lan> <20081116193828.GB7878@comcast.net> <20081116222222.J26735@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:41:27 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> improving FreeBSD, there wouldn't be a need to "convert". "Build > >> it (and secure/stabilise it) and they will come". > > > > Indeed, what IS the value of more users to a volunteer project like > > FreeBSD? > > to some level - better driver support. but > windows-converters-seeking-for-nicer-windows don't write drivers. > > this level is OK, more users can make only harm. > > exactly what happened with linux. > > as heavyweight "sponsors" did. they pay but request not just adding > drivers but to add strange-but-trendy features and solutions that > take system's quality down quickly. > > exactly that happened to NetBSD. i recently installed newest NetBSD > version just to look at it. it was damn slow and even slower under > high load!! > > not mentioning linux that got just billion$ total sposoring from IBM. > Could you point out some of those strange-but-trendy features? I tried Ubuntu for a while on my laptop and it more or less Just Works. It boots up quickly, detects all my devices, has accelerated 3D etc. Now I did move back to FreeBSD because I had problems with its autodetection system - in particular the graphics card wasn't configured properly. But that's a problem with Ubuntu specifically, and I could just as easily have switched to Debian or Gentoo where more manual configuration is required - just like in FreeBSD. One of the strengths of Linux is that if you find one of the new trendy features doesn't work, you can generally just build a new kernel - without including it. If it's user-space you don't like - well, that's a problem with the distribution, not linux itself. -- Bruce Cran
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