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Date:      Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:09:23 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Is it soup yet? :-) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811101903050.10145-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199811102044.MAA00415@dingo.cdrom.com>

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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Mike Smith wrote:

> > I'm just wondering when we're going to switch the kernel to ELF and
> > put /usr/src/sys/modules into the build path.  I'd really like the
> > /usr/bin/linux command to start doing the right thing on current 3.0
> > SNAPshots, among other things. :-)
> 
> I think we're about ready to do it.  We probably want to insist that 
> people cut over to the new bootstrap first, perhaps with a HEADS UP 
> announcement from someone that hasn't cried wolf before.

??? Modules are *already* installed by buildworld.  Peter did this,
what, a week ago?  As far as the kernel goes, I found out during my own
conversion that the bootblocks from 2.2.6 will give you a non-booting
machine ... that's the bar you have to jump, in getting elf kernels
installed on everyone's machine, without major hassle from everyone who
comes late to the game.

I don't know enough about the bootblocks ... I just followed Mike's
steps in getting myself installed ok, but is it possible to write a
program that could probe the boot disk, read the bootblocks, and decide
if they need upgrading ... and if they do, printing a warning message,
and then refuse to install the new kernel?

If this could be done, you know this will save a *lot* of complaints
about insufficient warnings.  You could warn until you're hoarse,
they'll *still* miss it, unless the build process itself screams at
them.

> 
> -- 
> \\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
> \\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
> 
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