Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 10:58:06 -0800 From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) To: dyson@freebsd.org Cc: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com, thorpej@nas.nasa.gov, davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@freebsd.org, torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi, lm@relay.engr.SGI.COM, iain@sbs.de, sparclinux@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: TCP/IP bandwidth bragging Message-ID: <199612031858.KAA00415@neteng.engr.sgi.com>
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: > FreeBSD folks, please don't beat up David for optimizing for the I/O : > paths tested by lmbench. While I agree with the load vs no load points : > raised, you are missing another one: smallness is goodness, and David : > is almost always optimizing by making things smaller. There are plenty : > of people shoveling stuff into the kernel making it slower - David is : > making it smaller & faster, let him be, it's useful. : > : BTW, that is our emphasis also (in the VM code), and we are really : fast. We are interested in friendly competition, but not interested : in bragging. Some people take offense to bragging. Hey, John, take the high road. You've heard the old saying: numbers talk, bullshit walks. If you have something that you think is better, then write a benchmark, post it with the FreeBSD results, and sit back and wait for Linux to get stomped. That shows you as the bigger person, the smarter person, the better coder. Complaining about someone else's bragging and suggesting that you have better numbers without producing those numbers sort of looks like sour grapes. I know you're better than that, so let's have some numbers that show how much better. I know you don't like lmbench - but you have yet to produce a single benchmark that you consider more useful. Come on, I know you can do it, stop talking and start writing and let's see some data.
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