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Date:      Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:03:35 +0000
From:      Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To:        Olav Gjerde <olav@backupbay.com>
Cc:        Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: NFS issues since upgrading to 13-RELEASE
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Olav Gjerde wrote:=0A=
>I have tried D29690 patch and reverting back to r367492 this weekend. Neit=
her made any difference for my system.=0A=
Just to clarify it, I meant "revert the patch in r367492" and not=0A=
"revert to revision r367492". I've attached the patch that=0A=
backs out the changes made by the patch in r367492, which=0A=
should apply to a fairly recent main/13 kernel.=0A=
=0A=
This should be done instead of applying D29690, not combined with it.=0A=
My testing of D29690 has suggested it is not yet mature, so=0A=
I would not recommend choosing that alternative yet.=0A=
=0A=
If you have tried a kernel with the attached patch applied to it, but not=
=0A=
D29690 applied to it, then please:=0A=
Let us know if you still have Linux clients "hanging" with this kernel.=0A=
If still "hanging", try the following to see if they help:=0A=
- Use the "minorversion=3D1" mount option on the Linux clients,=0A=
   to ensure that they are not using NFSv4.2, to see if it is a=0A=
   NFSv4.2 specific issue.=0A=
- Try disabling tso and lro and avoid jumbo frames for drivers=0A=
  that use jumbo mbufs when handling jumbo frames.=0A=
Collect the following info when it happens:=0A=
- "netstat -a", to see what the TCP connection is up to.=0A=
- "tcpdump -s 0 -w hang.pcap host <nfs-client>"=0A=
   run for several minutes on the server, to see what is going on the=0A=
   wire. I use wireshark to look at hang.pcap, since it=0A=
   knows NFS as well as TCP.=0A=
   You can also do the above with "host <nfs-server>" instead=0A=
   of "host <nfs-client>" run on the client.=0A=
- "ps axHl" on the server, to see what the nfsd threads=0A=
   are up to.=0A=
If none of the above contains confidential info, please=0A=
send it to me, if not the list.=0A=
=0A=
Good luck with it, rick=0A=
ps: Yea, I started this post and then realized I had hit=0A=
     reply instead of reply all.=0A=
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=0A=
=0A=
There is also a reddit thread about this https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/c=
omments/mqol4o/nfs_issues_since_upgrading_to_13release/=0A=
=0A=
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 1:10 AM Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca<mailto:r=
macklem@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:=0A=
Just fyi, I just got a "recursed on non-recursed mutex" panic in=0A=
socantrcvmore() with the D29690 patch, so you might not=0A=
want to test with that one yet.=0A=
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rick=0A=
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From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org<mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebs=
d.org> <owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org<mailto:owner-freebsd-current@free=
bsd.org>> on behalf of Olav Gjerde <olav@backupbay.com<mailto:olav@backupba=
y.com>>=0A=
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:21 PM=0A=
To: Allan Jude=0A=
Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org<mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org>=0A=
Subject: Re: NFS issues since upgrading to 13-RELEASE=0A=
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Well something do happen if I restart NFS Service on FreeBSD , it works for=
=0A=
like 10 seconds then it gets unresponsive again.=0A=
=0A=
This is my output from `nfsstat -d 1`=0A=
=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
8.00  1025    8.00  8.02 17170  134.54  2.01 72716  142.54  0.07  51  34=0A=
8.00  2273   17.76  7.99 31273  244.07  2.01 133267  261.83  0.14  20  82=
=0A=
8.03  4889   38.33  7.99 25885  202.07  2.06 119340  240.40  0.13  21  81=
=0A=
[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Read =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D]  [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Write =3D=3D=3D=3D=
]  [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Total =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D]=0A=
KB/t   tps    MB/s  KB/t   tps    MB/s  KB/t   tps    MB/s    ms  ql  %b=0A=
7.98  8811   68.64  8.00 12997  101.54  2.22 78396  170.18  0.15   1  80=0A=
7.99   922    7.20  8.00  3798   29.68  2.10 17965   36.87  0.09   0  11=0A=
8.07  2959   23.31  0.00     0    0.00  2.67  8938   23.31  0.86  32  72=0A=
7.97  7088   55.18  0.00     0    0.00  2.66 21233   55.18  1.05  16  98=0A=
7.98  4666   36.38  0.00     0    0.00  2.66 13986   36.38  0.36   9  29=0A=
8.00  4513   35.24  8.00  7662   59.86  2.20 44188   95.10  0.27  10  49=0A=
7.98  4799   37.40  8.00 11422   89.23  2.16 60076  126.63  0.19   0  51=0A=
8.00  4322   33.76  0.00     0    0.00  2.67 12967   33.76  0.89   0  42=0A=
8.02  4839   37.91  0.00     0    0.00  2.67 14550   37.91  0.54  17  41=0A=
8.01  4516   35.32  0.00     0    0.00  2.67 13569   35.32  0.57  27  38=0A=
7.95  4459   34.62  8.00  1195    9.34  2.49 18109   43.96  0.55   0  45=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00     0    0.00  0.00   0   0=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:07 PM Olav Gjerde <olav@backupbay.com<mailto:olav=
@backupbay.com>> wrote:=0A=
=0A=
> I have the same issue, using Ubuntu 20.10 with Linux 5.8 kernel. The Linu=
x=0A=
> NFS client will get unresponsive and it does not recover in my case, even=
=0A=
> if I restart NFS on FreeBSD. I upgraded from FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE though.=
=0A=
>=0A=
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:36 PM Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org<mailto:=
allanjude@freebsd.org>> wrote:=0A=
>=0A=
>> On 4/15/2021 9:22 AM, Chris Roose wrote:=0A=
>> > I posted this in -questions and someone suggested I post here as well.=
=0A=
>> >=0A=
>> > I'm having NFS availability issues between my Proxmox client and=0A=
>> FreeBSD server (10G link) since upgrading to 13-RELEASE. And unfortunate=
ly=0A=
>> I upgraded my ZFS pool to v2.0.0 before I noticed the issue, so I'm kind=
 of=0A=
>> stuck.=0A=
>> >=0A=
>> > Periodically, the NFS server (I've tried both v3 and v4.2 clients) wil=
l=0A=
>> go unresponsive for several minutes. I never had this problem on 12.2, a=
nd=0A=
>> as far as I can tell it's not a disk or network I/O issue. I'll get seve=
ral=0A=
>> "nfs: server not responding, still trying" messages on the client and a =
few=0A=
>> minutes later it usually recovers. It's not clear to me yet what's causi=
ng=0A=
>> the block. Restarting nfsd on the server will resolve the issue if it=0A=
>> doesn't clear itself.=0A=
>> >=0A=
>> > Any pointers for troubleshooting this? I've been looking through=0A=
>> vmstat, gstat, top, etc. when the problem occurs, but I haven't been abl=
e=0A=
>> to pinpoint the issue. I can get pcap, but it would be from the hosts,=
=0A=
>> because I don't have a 10G tap or managed switch.=0A=
>> >=0A=
>>=0A=
>> run `nfsstat -d 1` and try to capture a few lines from before, during,=
=0A=
>> and after the stall, and that may provide some insight.=0A=
>>=0A=
>> Specifically, does the queue length grow, suggesting it is waiting on=0A=
>> the I/O subsystem, or does it just stop getting traffic all together.=0A=
>>=0A=
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>> Allan Jude=0A=
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