Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 13:48:29 -0400 From: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, David Chisnall <theraven@theravensnest.org> Subject: Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..] Message-ID: <20120802174829.GA574@in-addr.com> In-Reply-To: <501AAEF2.8060202@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAJ-FndCDpD3rnQFwiOSGofP9cPCxC5Zo%2BPLfxALY8pnE=2HQMA@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MW2JEtDK0Ngdf_Br6D%2BVvdU1B9LmN0fm0F9=bG0f2iW4Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomhHxG8t9Sw7de%2BzUnbz0O5GSY4ifpHFtCb9JS_zS0rBA@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MUKGcy8rNz0FcZLVat49BmRLD3hVKX%2BOXxkzwRDugKtAw@mail.gmail.com> <612DA8A3-121E-4E72-9E5B-F3CBA9DEB7F7@bsdimp.com> <CACqU3MU-WyNFf5UZGx15m_HWBx_6W272qkfqHHJ8G7v%2BJCK2Sw@mail.gmail.com> <FAE07410-CA99-4061-856F-799DB9D225BE@bsdimp.com> <501A0258.4010101@FreeBSD.org> <CA622462-DB69-40E4-9E1D-A4D83AEB12F8@theravensnest.org> <501AAEF2.8060202@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 09:46:42AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > but there is > > certainly no active attempt to exclude people who can't attend. > > ... and here is where I need to push back. "No active attempt to exclude > people" is not the same thing as actively encouraging remote > participation. It's the latter that we're after. s/encouraging remote/encouraging constructive remote/ The last thing we need is more people trying to get things done their way because they know best. People need to be willing to accept that maybe some widget they want won't be part of the goal of the project under discussion, for whatever reason. I've seen too many ... heated debates start up largely because people were not discussing things face to face. I'm not saying that all of the debates wouldn't happen if people were all in the same room, but a lot of them wouldn't. Larger/longer term projects should probably have their own mailing list set up for discussion. Regards, Gary
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