Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:03:36 -0500 From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) To: Tony Kimball <alk@Think.COM> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <199603201903.OAA05740@etinc.com>
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> >I promise not to respond any more in this thread, but I can't >resist clarifying my previous statements which were not clear enough >to communicate effectively. > > From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:53:41 -0500 > > >99.9% of that bandwidth is going to go to VOD. Me, I just want to > >push the bottleneck out of my house into the ISP premises, then I'm happy. > >If the ISP is inadequate to my needs, I'll shop for another ISP. > > Shop til you drop! we just added features that let an ISP FILTER OUT video > traffic, because you can't let a someone paying $22. a month run CUSEEME > on a 28.8 line for 6 hours. > >VOD should never touch the net any more than POTS or Fax traffic. I'm >talking about CATV replacement. Cable is also technically obsolete, >although I expect it to take many more years to die (say 2008 maybe) >than ISDN will take because there is much more pre-existing plant and >the mean customer base is more conservative. In the future net >services will be managed by the same people who do the phone and the >tv. One bill each month. Something is wrong here. Are you saying that ISPs are going to be providing you with VOD from your cable company? If it "never touches the net', then how do you justify your "80X the performance of ISDN" claim". I pay $19 a month for cable and frankly don't care if I can hook my PC to cable or use my phone line, particularly if 99.9% of the bandwidth is only available to VOD. > > With T1 service > priced at $1000. a month, I don't think that the average Joe is going to > dump his dial-up connection for it even if the modem and the line are free. > >T1 doesn't cost 1k/mo where I live, it costs $300. Nor can an ISP >expect to charge T1 rates for a pipe that shares a T1 link with 1000 >other users. If thats the case then you're not getting T1, are you? Again, your performance numbers dry up. >At that rate, you should ideally charge $0.30/mo, but >of course there are other cost factors which dominate. That is why >you pay $20/mo for 7x24 dialup. An ISP who fails to accomodate the >changing technical and economic realities of the situtation will not >compete effectively any more than a 2400baud ISP could compete today. >(But Tymenet still lives!) Lets have a show of hands of ISPs that charge $20. for 24X 7 unmetered dial-up........ > >I know full well that even the most rabid bleeders will not buy ADSL >today. I'm one of them. But this June they will. And by June next, >the overwhelming technical superiority of ADSL and the economies of >scale will be pushing into the mainstream user base. > Oh...people will buy it...but your numbers are WAY off. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX
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