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Date:      Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:49:54 -0500
From:      Pedro Giffuni <pfg@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>,  "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r268137 - head/sys/sys
Message-ID:  <55870752.6060802@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmonaOjw850eeh-pUZHCazinAsLHrGdV6N_hEok_rGjEXyA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi;

On 06/21/15 12:03, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't think we should be worrying about what hypothetical downstream
> users of freebsd are doing. If they want to actively ensure things are
> backwards compatible for their needs, then they should step up and
> actively fund + participate in development.

I agree, but I don't set the policies and we do carry stuff related
to older compilers and things like the old linux i386-only intel
compiler.

> So if we're somehow /still/ supporting gcc-2.8.1 because -core decided
> that we should support it - please step up and tell us why and who.
> Otherwise, let's keep pushing forward to at least the busted old gcc
> we /do/ support, with an eye towards the future.
>

For reference. I had to do this to accommodate for pre-C99
compilers:

https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=280801

I don't see myself going back to redo the headers to take advantage
of the variadic macros, but it would be nice to have a policy that
doesn't keep us in the past.

Pedro.



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