Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:33:50 +0200 From: "Dave Wilson" <davew@sai.co.za> To: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Off topic - shell skills---- Sorted ! Message-ID: <NEBBJFIIGKGLPEBIJACLAEOCCJAA.davew@sai.co.za> In-Reply-To: <3A3F5F9D.6885AFAC@ocsinternet.com>
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Thanks all ! sarep works great ! Kindest regards David Wilson The S.A Internet #include <std-disclaimer.h> -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of mikel Sent: 19 December 2000 03:16 To: Troy Settle Cc: Len Conrad; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Off topic - shell skills But you can and it works...is it right hmmm sounds like we've entered into a philosophical quandary now haven't we. I personally don't recommend it but the guy that was here before me did it for whatever reason. It doesn't really matter as it works, and in as much as I'd loved to change it, there are too many clients relying on the CNAME, and almost equally so that rely on the true MX. And exactly why are we argueing over this, when ISPs are being swallowed up but big fish like AOL, Verizon and the like...I've enough to worry about setting up stupid dsl circuits that I have to buy from verizon, and funnily enough that they just so happen to sell them themselves...it's maddening! Sorry fell off the box for a moment... cheers, mikel Troy Settle wrote: > I've gotten about 10 replies to my first post... all saying "no, you can't > use a CNAME for the MX" This is what led to my last post. I did not, in > any way, suggest pointing the MX to a CNAME. > > Yes, using a $INCLUDE is another way around it. I personally don't like it, > but hey, that's me. There are many answers to every problem, some right, > some wrong. There is rarely a single path to reach the goal. > > This list is for the sharing of information, and that's what I do. I'm not > afraid to admit when I'm wrong, but for so many people to blast me when I'm > /NOT/ wrong is just plain wrong. > > Anyhoo, use a $INCLUDE, point the MX to the FQDN within the ISP's zone file, > use a shell script or make file to assemble everything from bits and pieces > or maybe even a database. I don't care. There's a ton of ways to do this > stuff that work well and make sense. There is no single right answer, there > is no single superior answer, and we all know that there's plenty of wrong > answers. > > I'm sure there's a few other ingenious ways of managing large DNS servers, I > for one, would love to hear about them. > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 540.994.4254 > > It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short > > ** -----Original Message----- > ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Len Conrad > ** Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:37 PM > ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > ** Subject: RE: Off topic - shell skills > ** > ** > ** > ** >Ok kids, > ** > ** Why the condescension, pops? > ** > ** >Re-read my post. I did NOT say to use a CNAME as the MX. I > ** suggested that > ** >you create a CNAME record to point mail.CUSTOMER.com to point to > ** >mail.ISP.net. > ** > ** There ya go, 99% of the people would screw that up, at one step or > ** other. I see it everyday in the ISC BIND list, etc, etc. Technically > ** correct, but in practice it gets screwed up more often than not, > ** zones are in error (non authoritative so higher traffic due to no > ** caching) and sometimes mail isn't even delivered reliably. > ** > ** With the $INCLUDE approach, there is still just one record in one > ** file to edit (just like your suggestion), but my approach avoids the > ** frequently confusing and always higher traffic-producing CNAME of > ** your approach. > ** > ** > Any more objections to my suggestion? > ** > ** There are no objections to your suggestion, there is just my superior > ** suggestion. :)) > ** > ** Len > ** > ** http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K > ** > ** http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways > ** > ** > ** > ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ** > ** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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