Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:34:42 -0800 From: Allan Bowhill <abowhill@blarg.net> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Personal patches Message-ID: <20040107203442.GB67808@kosmos.my.net> In-Reply-To: <20040107194051.P32387-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> References: <20040107001001.GA65133@kosmos.my.net> <20040107194051.P32387-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee>
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On 0, Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee> wrote:
:On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Allan Bowhill wrote:
:> {Personally I hope genetic fingerprinting ultimately replaces this
:> system. This method of identification has proven indispensable in
:> catching criminals who would otherwise have gone unnoticed. It works.
:> Take Gary Ridegeway for example, who may have killed over 60 women in
:> Washington State. He would never have confessed (and may never have been
:> arrested) if the police could not confront him with a solid death
:> penalty case, supported by genetic evidence. Because the police were
:> able to confront him with this, he plea-bargained out of death in exchan=
ge
:> for leading the police to his victim's gravesites.)
:>
:
:hah. and you bring some stupid and arbitrary plea bargain as a good reason
:for geneticly fingerprinting everybody?
Non-repudiation of identity shows the qualities of the identification syste=
m.
It's a good and recent example of that.
:> Again, why should we trust?
:
:because you want to have international visitors and trade. Oh, and because
:inbound tourism in US number 2 export at ~ $80 billion. Which is already
:20% down from 2000.
There are service exports and goods exports.
Tourism is the second largest service export, ($88 bn) accounting for
less than %10 of total exports, which are at $972 bn.
Preliminary statistics for 2002, U.S. Office of Travel and Tourism Industri=
es
http://tinet.ita.doc.gov
It's understandable that tourism is down. It's down almost everywhere.
You can thank terrorism and a worldwide economic slump for that.
Tourism is significant to the U.S. economy. But I doubt a fingerprint
system will do much damage to it. If you really want to travel here,
just come to terms with the fact that you'll have to stick your index
finger in a scanner before you enter the country.=20
I don't know where you got the impression that I think innocent tourists
are murderers. That's just silly.
:The absurd thing is that 9/11 merely meant that peopel in US killed by
:US citizens had the same per person rate as peopel killed in US by people
:who came into US.
You can't make that assumption. There are no statistics I can see that give
any information about the numbers and types of crimes committed in the U.S.
by people who are not citizens of the U.S.
If you can find a URL, post it. Although interesting, it's not relevant.
--=20
Allan Bowhill
abowhill@blarg.net
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying
to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
-- Rich Cook
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