Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:39:16 -0400 From: "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com> To: Toby Slight <tobyslight@gmail.com>, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> Cc: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: X230 Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 not working Message-ID: <1440002356.1200.17.camel@michaeleichorn.com> In-Reply-To: <CACw1_RnnMrZXUdizK9OVxhV6RSphqeD7T4SN_UKKZvL_roAcXg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CACw1_RkwphNG8h=cP7dv5unCYPT98jb5z90nC-MuOYYdN5x-CA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomD2F3NCKHnBaao7YAMWg7Ee_7VeuZafOZHJKoq0NjYBw@mail.gmail.com> <CACw1_Rn8dHNv5H1-xYaS8eX5YB2WRZwLTZdmcpwh2Mk5GyFbUw@mail.gmail.com> <20150819124357.GR4954@e-new.0x20.net> <CACw1_Rmr=CF5BEjCbP-Dwra=yOfC_mZbsQ4_d%2BVrTxgDKhJC3g@mail.gmail.com> <20150819132523.GV4954@e-new.0x20.net> <CACw1_RnnMrZXUdizK9OVxhV6RSphqeD7T4SN_UKKZvL_roAcXg@mail.gmail.com>
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--=-bPrlLlK3nGM+/JchYGfQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 14:41 +0100, Toby Slight wrote: > Forgot to cc the lists on the last response - doh! >=20 > On 19 August 2015 at 14:25, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 02:12:30PM +0100, Toby Slight wrote: > > > On 19 August 2015 at 13:43, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> > > > wrote: > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > HEAD is CURRENT, so 11.0-CURRENT is what you need. > > > > Don't worry, it's pretty stable. I'm running HEAD on my X230 > > > > since I > > > > bought it. No problems so far. > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Cool - cheers for the response Lars :-) I just fired up the=20 > > > -CURRENT > > > installer and was able to configure my wifi - fantastic. Guess I'm > > > going > > to > > > be running FreeBSD -CURRENT for a while then.... I must say it was > > > nice > > > that the the vt driver was enabled by default :-) > >=20 > > Perfect! :-) Suspend / Resume should also work. I can show you my > > loader.conf / rc.conf settings to get things going, if you like. > >=20 >=20 > That would be amazing and much appreciated :-) Finding it quite a jump > from > OpenBSD and Linux - got A LOT to learn! Of particular interest would be > whether or not you still have to add to Intel KMS flags to loader.conf > and > what else needs to be added to get Xorg to work nice and reliablely... > Does > TTY to X switching work now? I remember a few years ago I could get X > running on FreeBSD, but if I switched to a TTY, that was the end of me > being able to use my laptop screen! >=20 >=20 > > >=20 > > > How often do you tend to update on current? And I take it a full > > recompile > > > is necessary? No freebsd-update from what I remember reading on the > > > bsdnow.tv site? Is there no way to go from one snapshot to another > > without > > > either recompiling or nuking and paving, like there is on OpenBSD > > -current? > >=20 > > I update kernel and world on an irregular basis. Something between 3 > > days and 3 weeks. My X230 has the Core i7 CPU and 16 GB RAM, so > > building > > both takes 1,5 to 2 hours. Then I run etcupdate(8), so merging the > > config files is mostly painless. (Be sure to run etcupdate before the > > first upgrade, so it can use your running config. > > freebsd-update only works on RELEASES, and can be slower than > > building > > from source anyways. > >=20 > >=20 > Cool - cheers for the tips. I dare say my builds will be a fair bit > slower > as my machine only has an i3 and 6GB RAM... Is freebsd-update ever > likely > to be made to work with the current and stable branches? Or maybe > something > like the OpenBSD -current update mechanism? =46rom what I hear freebsd-update probably will not implement this, however there is a possibility that some option might develop as a result of packaging base, which is currently an active project. For more info checkout the presentation @bapt gave at BSDCan 2015 [1] and the interview he gave on the BSDNow Podcast [2]. [1] Presentation (44 min): https://youtu.be/Br6izhH5P1I Q&A (14 min): https://youtu.be/v7px6ktoDAI [2] Interview (12 min): https://youtu.be/gDi09Wfx-9s?t=3D25m2s >=20 >=20 > > >=20 > > > How about pkgng? Do binary pkgs and binary pkg upgrades work on=20 > > > -current? > >=20 > > pkg works like a charm on HEAD. You usually get new packages every > > second day. There are only some ports which get built against kernel > > sources which need to be compiled from ports. Oh, and if you use > > Flash: > > Flash may not be distributed as a package, so you have to install and > > upgrade it from ports. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > That's great, I'm fine with building the system, but if I then had to > go > and recompile all my packages I think I'd be noping out at that > point... > I've done my time on Gentoo - and don't relish the thought of staring > at > walls of text for days on end any more! >=20 >=20 --=-bPrlLlK3nGM+/JchYGfQ Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCEqAw ggYwMIIFGKADAgECAgMOXcYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQK Ew1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSswKQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWdu aW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRlIENsaWVu dCBDQTAeFw0xNTA2MTMyMDI0NDZaFw0xNjA2MTQwMDM1NTBaMEgxHzAdBgNVBAMMFmlrZUBtaWNo 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