Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:55:21 +0900 (JST) From: Maho NAKATA <chat95@mac.com> To: daichi@ongs.co.jp Cc: java@freebsd.org, glewis@FreeBSD.org, toshi@ruby.ocn.ne.jp, leafy7382@gmail.com, jkim@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Japanese font conf for JDK16 to use IPA font Message-ID: <20090303.205521.193732154.chat95@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <49AD03C0.7080707@ongs.co.jp> References: <49A77F4A.2080508@ongs.co.jp> <20090303.164219.48483570.chat95@mac.com> <49AD03C0.7080707@ongs.co.jp>
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----Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi From: Daichi GOTO <daichi@ongs.co.jp> Subject: Re: Japanese font conf for JDK16 to use IPA font Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:17:36 +0900 > Maho NAKATA wrote: >> Daichi san >> Sorry for changing my mind...this is just suggestion. >> IPA font is good but license is too restrictive. > > NO. That is old information. Please check latest IPAfont license. > We can use it as default font right now I guess. Yes, I have checked the new one :) For me, "free" means we can also redistribute modified fonts; like IPA-mona-font http://www.geocities.jp/ipa_mona/ , M+ IPA font http://mix-mplus-ipa.sourceforge.jp/download.html and IPA fonts from FreeBSD ports (actually this is M+IPA font). Note that they still employes older licence, because newer license has restrictive clauses ($BBh(B3$B>r(B1). >> VLGothic is free font and ubuntu uses as user interface font. >> Fallback to VLGothic may useful for some environment. > > NO. I do not think so. > > Ubuntu use VLGothic as default Japanese font since license issue, > yes I know that. (JFYI, PC-BSD use it as default Japanese/Chinese > font too, because of 1CD size limitation.) But it is lead by > Ubuntu *BINARY PACKAGE SITUATION* and their license policy, that is > not affected to Ports Collection of FreeBSD. This part is correct. However, please aware that IPA font set is not a free one. Policies can be different between Linux distributions; Fedora won't be shipped with IPA fonts nor Ubuntu, etc. Situation is quite different from gcc; almost every distribution can include gcc, because it is a free software. it's okay but may result incompatibility issue. > So I believe that IPA font should be used as default Japanese > fonts on most situation, at least by Ports Collection. > How do you make of that? It depends. If you and colleagues want to use FreeBSD, that's okay. However if you work with other people who use Linux, it could result some conflict. In any case, if there is a Windows or MacOSX guy, we cannot avoid conflict :) At least VLgothic is a free one, and the worst case, it would be better to have a fallback to VLgothic if IPA font is not present. Best -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , http://ja.openoffice.org/ Nakata Maho's PGP public keys: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmtGqwACgkQpcQqaPiEzfn+qwCeIF5NUG6/boj/xZHFPzhLMYD2 d6AAoLTlH+pVu7UYIoDeeOHtcSkhJtKQ =IJBh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Tue_Mar__3_20_55_21_2009_186)----
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