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Date:      Fri, 15 May 1998 18:42:49 PDT
From:      "Brian Feldman" <brianfeldman@hotmail.com>
To:        julian@whistle.com, brian@Awfulhak.org
Cc:        opsys@mail.webspan.net, brianfeldman@hotmail.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SoftUpdates stable??
Message-ID:  <19980516014250.15918.qmail@hotmail.com>

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Yep, Brian, that's exactly what I'm doing here; as I said, I'll come 
back with more info when more info exists.

Brian Feldman

>From brian@awfulhak.org Fri May 15 18:01:00 1998
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>Subject: Re: SoftUpdates stable??
>In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 May 1998 01:24:28 PDT."
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>Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 01:45:12 +0100
>From: Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
>
>I turned off softupdates on everything and experienced the same 
>lockup !  I've now re-built my kernel & lkms from scratch and am 
>running with no softupdates.  If the machine survives the night, I'll 
>turn on softupdates (& no async FSs) and see how things go :-/
>
>> try making  tmp softupdates rather than sync
>> (it's better because softupdates can decide that a deleted file never
>> nneds to be written (it cancels the write)
>> whereas async will write the block anyhow for no reason.)
>> 
>> I will admit that my test machine has not been running X11
>> I will correct that oversight tomorrow
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 15 May 1998, Brian Somers wrote:
>> 
>> > Same problems here - I have /tmp async and not soft-updated.  The 
>> > rest is soft-updated and not async.  The locks under X are quick & 
>> > bad (about 10-15 minutes after starting X) - not even BREAK on a 
>> > serial console gets a look-in.
>[.....]
>-- 
>Brian <brian@Awfulhak.org>, <brian@FreeBSD.org>, <brian@OpenBSD.org>
>      <http://www.Awfulhak.org>;
>Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....
>
>
>


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