Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 15:06:19 +0000 (UTC) From: "Alexander Ziaee" <ziaee@FreeBSD.org> To: "Larry Fahnoe" <fahnoe@fahnoetech.com>, "Mark Millard" <marklmi@yahoo.com> Cc: "vermaden" <vermaden@interia.pl>, "Lexi Winter" <ivy@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-pkgbase" <freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: None of "man freebsd-base" (or "man pkgbase"), "man pkg-upgrade", or "man pkg-install" deal with documenting .pkgsave and/or .pkgnew behavior or how to handle such Message-ID: <E1wea2V-0006mp-Ab@rmmprod07.runbox> In-Reply-To: <Ixz2bfOmtE-ie9vz-GXnrp94AUzVwaDhHCR2wv_hk1hQ1KGOgFcgrmOebmRCsBlMvo-jivXDu3yZQtE3vIIbr5-v6KtudANkIhwjkeDgyyc=@fahnoetech.com>
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On Monday, June 30, 2026, Larry Fahnoe <fahnoe@fahnoetech.com> wrote: > On Monday, June 29th, 2026, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I have suggested elsewhere that the last of the output from those >> commands should probably list the counts of each of *.pkgnew and >> *.pkgave such files generated for any where the count is positive. >> That would make a good prompt to go looking --and allow avoiding >> looking when none were generated. > > I would second this comment/suggestion, particularly for those who are > newer or less familiar with FreeBSD update practices. My system admin > experience comes from other platforms (VMS, linux and other unix) so I > have been paying attention to the conversations that are mentioning > the *.pkgnew and *.pkgsave files as they seem a bit less intuitive > than on the other platforms. For some it may be natural to go looking > for these leftover telltales but they may represent important but > neglected potential time-bombs for the less familiar. OpenVMS and Linux do create these files. OpenVMS increments the version (;2 or ;3) or drops a TEMPLATE file. Linux uses .dpkg-dist and .dpkg-old or .rpmnew and .rpmsave. However, it is a not a ticking time bomb, so they do not tell you and you have not noticed. Everyone is using roughly the same three-way merge strategy, we just tell you about the failure case because of our culture which prizes thorough docs. We do not want to make a big deal out of it because it is already causing misunderstanding. Best, Alexhome | help
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