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Date:      Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:04:53 -0800
From:      Bill Huey (Hui) <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
To:        shudo@computer.org
Cc:        jdp@polstra.com, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, john@utzweb.net, "brent@rcfile.org.freebsd-chat"@FreeBSD.ORG, rwatson@freesbsd.org, calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, bod@freebsdfoundation.org, "Bill Huey (Hui)" <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Subject:   Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation)
Message-ID:  <20030208220453.GA1434@gnuppy.monkey.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030208.210904.304092174.shudo@localhost>
References:  <863cn2nf6g.wl@utweb.net> <XFMail.20030206104124.jdp@polstra.com> <20030208.210904.304092174.shudo@localhost>

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On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:09:04PM +0900, shudo@computer.org wrote:
> Unfortunately, you could not have a chance to see my warning to the
> FreeBSD-Java list soon after the announce:
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=50852+0+archive/2001/freebsd-java/20011230.freebsd-java
> 
> The following is an extract from the attached mail:

The tests were passed in the green threading system with the help of another
vendor recently from private mailings.

> The original purpose of the funding, which is boosting the TCK work,
> is inconsistent with the following announce by Greg:
> 
> | From: Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>
> | To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
> | Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 03:44:45 +1030
> |
> | Again, I would like to thank Alexey Zelkin who has single handedly been
> | working on the 1.4 port.  I'd also like to thank the FreeBSD Foundation
> | who have provided the funding to allow Alexey to continue his work.
> 
> This announce says that FBSD Foundation has provided the fund for the
> porting work of JDK 1.4.1, which does not boost the TCK work at all.

They need oversight, that's the bottom line and can't be just randomly
meddling into various groups.

> Greg has been working hard on the TCK work throughout the year 2002.
> He has been improved Classic VM of JDK 1.3.1 to get it passing the
> TCK.  Alexey's current work is porting of HotSpot VM of JDK 1.4.X.
> They are completely different activities.
> 
> Or, was the target of the TCK work changed into JDK 1.4.X?
> 
> As many of you know, 1.4.X for FreeBSD has just started working and
> still immature and it will need much time to pass the TCK.  See the
> case of 1.3.1.  FreeBSD's 1.4.X will take more time then 1.3.1.
> Anyway, it's wasteful to abandon the work on 1.3.1.
> 
> > Both
> > Greg and Nate agreed that Alexey would be a good person for the job.
> 
> I guess you mean the TCK work by `the job'.

Yep, none of this was clarified, which is has caused a lot of confusion
and general wierdness.

bill


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