Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:04:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org>, "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@geekpunk.net>, Darren Pilgrim <dmp@pantherdragon.org>, Evan Dower <evantd@hotmail.com>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Cyrus vs. UW IMAP (was: Re: I Volunteer) Message-ID: <20020621000043.H567-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> In-Reply-To: <3D129E79.A32431EB@mindspring.com>
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Lamont Granquist wrote: > > Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts > > with though. > > You mean that it doesn't integrate well with the UNIX credentials > system. THe issue here is that Cyrus needs to be able to hook > create/delete actions on accounts, and UNIX fails to provide a > means of doing this. I look at this as a UNIX deficiency. You > can actually get around it by using "pw" and utilizing the script > hooks it has. Well, that's trying to place blame on how it should get fixed. From my perspective I don't care, it is just more difficult to use. > The easiest real fix for this would be to write a PAM module to > cause the UNIX users to authenticate against the Cyrus database. Creating mailboxes is also a PITA, I like procmail to be able to do this and not have a 2nd configuration step... > > The cyradm program is extremely deficient. > > Not a big issue, I think. Writing scripts to encapsulate it and > be "less deficient" is really very trivial. Yeah, these days I don't have that much time to script... If I did have more scripting time, I'd be fixing more shit at work to help me sleep through the night when I'm on call... > > Its great if you > > want to offer people imap e-mail without offering them shell access. For > > local access, though, there's a higher administrative overhead. I'm back > > to using the UW imapd even though I know it is a poorer codebase... > > I recommend you do not publicize the IP addresses of the servers, > if they are net accessible outside your organization. 8-). Nope. Well protected by firewall in one case, and I'll be updating my ipf rules when I convert scriptkiddie... I never use remote IMAP anyways... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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