Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2025 19:10:01 +0100 From: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com> To: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ : why is FreeBSD-utilities-dbg hours older than FreeBSD-utilities ? [ALPHA4 update is even odder] Message-ID: <4ae28fec-8b97-4e4d-b488-3176e0b5b80e@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4BEB66ED-4561-48B5-92B9-DDFC14F67E25@yahoo.com> References: <ED609780-905D-4DAC-B6A4-A54E3EDE9F85@yahoo.com> <4BEB66ED-4561-48B5-92B9-DDFC14F67E25@yahoo.com>
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On 26/09/2025 16:16, Mark Millard wrote:
> …
>
> The update to 15.0-ALPHA4 …
There has been more than one. (ALPHA4 not yet announced.) Before an update:
FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA4 stable/15-*n280331*-*ccbc5f307a66* GENERIC amd64
1500064 1500064
After updating then restarting:
FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA4 stable/15-*n280333*-*d2518851f2f9* GENERIC amd64
1500064 1500064
In detail:
root@freebsd-conf:~ # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -mvKU
15.0-ALPHA4
15.0-ALPHA4
15.0-ALPHA4
FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA4 stable/15-n280331-ccbc5f307a66 GENERIC amd64 1500064
1500064
root@freebsd-conf:~ # pkg upgrade -Fqy
root@freebsd-conf:~ # pkg upgrade -Uy
Checking for upgrades (11 candidates): 100%
Processing candidates (11 candidates): 100%
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
The following 10 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):
Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
FreeBSD-kernel-generic: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 ->
15.0.a4.20250926201937 [FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 ->
15.0.a4.20250926201937 [FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 ->
15.0.a4.20250926201937 [FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-kernel-minimal: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 ->
15.0.a4.20250926201937 [FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-src: 15.0.a3.20250925224412 -> 15.0.a4.20250926183022 [FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-src-sys: 15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-tests: 15.0.a3.20250925224412 -> 15.0.a4.20250926183022
[FreeBSD-base]
FreeBSD-tests-dbg: 15.0.a3.20250925224412 -> 15.0.a4.20250926183022
[FreeBSD-base]
Number of packages to be upgraded: 10
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15.0.a4.20250926201937...
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to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...
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15.0.a4.20250926201937...
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to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...
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15.0.a4.20250926183022...
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15.0.a4.20250926201937...
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15.0.a4.20250926183022...
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/09/2025 16:16, Mark Millard
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:4BEB66ED-4561-48B5-92B9-DDFC14F67E25@yahoo.com">
<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">…
The update to 15.0-ALPHA4 …</pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>There has been more than one. (ALPHA4 not yet announced.) Before
an update: </p>
<p>FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA4 stable/15-<b>n280331</b>-<b>ccbc5f307a66</b>
GENERIC amd64 1500064 1500064<br>
</p>
<p>After updating then restarting: </p>
<p>FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA4 stable/15-<b>n280333</b>-<b>d2518851f2f9</b>
GENERIC amd64 1500064 1500064<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>In detail: </p>
<p> <span style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">root@freebsd-conf:~
# freebsd-version -kru ; uname -mvKU</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">15.0-ALPHA4</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">15.0-ALPHA4</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">15.0-ALPHA4</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD
15.0-ALPHA4 stable/15-n280331-ccbc5f307a66 GENERIC amd64
1500064 1500064</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">root@freebsd-conf:~
# pkg upgrade -Fqy</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">root@freebsd-conf:~
# pkg upgrade -Uy</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Checking
for upgrades (11 candidates): 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Processing
candidates (11 candidates): 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Checking
integrity... done (0 conflicting)</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">The
following 10 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Installed
packages to be UPGRADED:</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-kernel-generic:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-kernel-minimal:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-src:
15.0.a3.20250925224412 -> 15.0.a4.20250926183022
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-src-sys:
15.0.a4.20250926114356 -> 15.0.a4.20250926201937
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-tests:
15.0.a3.20250925224412 -> 15.0.a4.20250926183022
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FreeBSD-tests-dbg:
15.0.a3.20250925224412 -> 15.0.a4.20250926183022
[FreeBSD-base]</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Number of
packages to be upgraded: 10</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[1/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-kernel-generic from 15.0.a4.20250926114356
to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[1/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-kernel-generic-15.0.a4.20250926201937: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[2/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg from
15.0.a4.20250926114356 to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[2/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg-15.0.a4.20250926201937:
100%</span><span
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<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[3/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam from
15.0.a4.20250926114356 to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[3/11]
Extracting
FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-15.0.a4.20250926201937: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[4/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg from
15.0.a4.20250926114356 to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
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<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[4/11]
Extracting
FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg-15.0.a4.20250926201937: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[5/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-kernel-minimal from 15.0.a4.20250926114356
to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[5/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-15.0.a4.20250926201937: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[6/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg from
15.0.a4.20250926114356 to 15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[6/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg-15.0.a4.20250926201937:
100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[7/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-src from 15.0.a3.20250925224412 to
15.0.a4.20250926183022...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[7/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-src-15.0.a4.20250926183022: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[8/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-src-sys from 15.0.a4.20250926114356 to
15.0.a4.20250926201937...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[8/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-src-sys-15.0.a4.20250926201937: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[9/11]
Deinstalling FreeBSD-tests-dbg-15.0.a3.20250925224412...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[9/11]
Deleting files for FreeBSD-tests-dbg-15.0.a3.20250925224412:
100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[10/11]
Upgrading FreeBSD-tests from 15.0.a3.20250925224412 to
15.0.a4.20250926183022...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[10/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-tests-15.0.a4.20250926183022: 100%</span><span
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Installing FreeBSD-tests-dbg-15.0.a4.20250926183022...</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[11/11]
Extracting FreeBSD-tests-dbg-15.0.a4.20250926183022: 100%</span><span
style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"> </span><br>
<span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">root@freebsd-conf:~
# </span><br>
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