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Date:      Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: docs/31653: Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content
Message-ID:  <200207011550.g61Fo8V7055814@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/31653; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/31653: Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:40:46 +0300

 Adding to the audit trail the relevant text from PRs docs/39837,
 docs/39839, docs/39857 and docs/39869:
 
 : Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
 : From: Ross Lippert <ripper@eskimo.com>
 : To: keramida@FreeBSD.org
 : Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
 :
 : Aside for the below, I'll incorporate your current comments and get
 : the new version out tonight.
 :
 : >will have to be created every time the system reboots? :-)
 :
 : Good point about the impermanence of devfs.  In fact, I know very little
 : about how devfs works -- I just wanted to put something here so as not
 : to get too out of date when 5.X arrives.
 :
 : I think there is actually some conf file in which you can not only specify
 : such links but also give writablility permissions to users/groups.  I saw
 : something once about this in a discussion somewhere.
 :
 : I'll ask on freebsd-questions or browse the web, and hopefully be able to
 : say something better about this.
 
 
 : Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 05:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
 : From: Ross Lippert <ripper@eskimo.com>
 : To: keramida@FreeBSD.org
 : Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
 :
 : Oh, and sorry about the white-space.  When emacs inserts it, I default
 : into thinking it knows best, but it clearly doesn't.
 
 
 : Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:11:05 +0300
 : From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
 : To: Ross Lippert <ripper@eskimo.com>
 : Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
 :
 : On 2002-06-25 05:25 +0000, Ross Lippert wrote:
 : >
 : > >How about adding a note here that DEVFS links are not persistent, and
 : > >will have to be created every time the system reboots? :-)
 : >
 : > Good point about the impermanence of devfs.  In fact, I know very little
 : > about how devfs works -- I just wanted to put something here so as not
 : > to get too out of date when 5.X arrives.
 : >
 : > I think there is actually some conf file in which you can not only specify
 : > such links but also give writablility permissions to users/groups.  I saw
 : > something once about this in a discussion somewhere.
 :
 : In recent CURRENT versions there are /etc/rc.devfs (the usual place
 : where custom DEVFS links/permissions or other persistent state can be
 : added), and (for those of us who have adopted rc_ng, the NetBSD style
 : rc-scripts) there is always /etc/rc.d/devfs.
 :
 : > I'll ask on freebsd-questions or browse the web, and hopefully be able to
 : > say something better about this.
 :
 : No need.  I can do that.  Work on the rest of the chapter, and I'll
 : add what is needed to make the DEVFS part a bit more detailed.
 
 
 : Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
 : From: Ross Lippert <ripper@eskimo.com>
 : To: keramida@FreeBSD.org
 : Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
 :
 : >> 	   directly.  Since you are likely to be dissatisfied with
 : >	dissatisfied => disappointed ?
 :
 : Actually, I think dissatisfied is the right choice of words.  There
 : is just always something to tweak after you get your first look at
 : the result.

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