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Date:      Tue, 19 Oct 2021 18:55:34 -0700
From:      Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>,  src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 6:25 PM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 01:37:00PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 14:21:33 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 07:38:15AM +0000, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> > > > commit 225639e7db685a4047e384abdbc296c0e02bd147
> > > >
> > > >  vt: Disable bell by default
> > > >
> > > >  Bell is either useless if you're working on remote servers or
> > > >  really annoying when you're working with a local machine that
> > > >  have a loud buzzer.  Switch the default to have it disable.
> > >
> > > For you, not for me, for example. Also, this is violate POLA.
> >
> > Just set kern.vt.enable_bell=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and you will be
> > happy again.
>
> Actually, it should've been the other way around: it if annoys *you*,
> then you should just set kern.vt.enable_bell=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf
> and be happy.  I'm also used to it, it's a nice indicator that things
> work normally, including the bell itself.
>
> > And POLA doesn't means that we can't change a thing.

I think a POLA violation here was that some equipment emits a
jarringly loud noise, and rushing to turn that off is more stressful
than the change of turning it on if you value it.  Safe defaults.

> FWIW, controversial changes like this should go through the formal
> review process, giving everyone interested a chance to chime in, not
> like closing the differential in less than 24 hours.
>
> ./danfe
>



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