Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:55:19 -0800 From: "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, abi <abi@abinet.ru> Subject: Re: The future of portmaster Message-ID: <a0f7340785610ffe35b4c8d3a1c262e2@ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> References: <CAB88xy_RU5TTE=pcsjCWsxWyU-jP91qzD9S-R1v6GKGHJg2=nQ@mail.gmail.com> <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net>, <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru>
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 abi <abi@abinet.ru> wrote > 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H пишет: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> > > wrote > > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: > >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can > >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. > >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my > >>>>>> attention > >>>>> What kind of special support? > >>>>> > >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and > >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen > >>>>> minutes to set up. > >>>>> > >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package > >>>> [...] > >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional > >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use > >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George > >>> > >>> > >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > > > From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and > it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment. Oh, I won't argue that. Indeed, chroot(8) is a much lighter solution. But for my needs, jail(8) is the best solution. As I've already setup a number for other tasks, anyway. Speaking of chroot(8), synth(1) chroots all its work. All the best. --Chris
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