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Date:      Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:07:54 +0200
From:      Matthias Buelow <mkb@incubus.de>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process
Message-ID:  <20050716140754.GA752@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net>
In-Reply-To: <20050716101657.GA44786@pc5.i.0x5.de>
References:  <20050715224650.GA48516@outcold.yadt.co.uk> <200507152342.j6FNg5Tx015427@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> <20050716101657.GA44786@pc5.i.0x5.de>

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Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:

>> >The track which is corrupted could contain data that wasn't written
>> >to in months.  How would the journal help?
>> 
>> I don't understand this question.
>
>The track destroyed could contain sectors which are in no way related
>to the sectors the OS is writing to.

And in what way is that related to the existence or nonexistence
of write barriers and a journal?
If you pound the disk with a hammer, it will most likely break,
no matter what strategy you're using.
That you cannot eliminate _all_ sources of error with a strategy
doesn't mean that you shouldn't implement it to minimize the number
of errors that could happen.

Besides, I always thought that (most) disks had enough power reserve
to be able to write at least one track when power goes away? Or is
that an urban myth, I don't know for sure.

mkb.



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