Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 23:34:50 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <freebsd-testing@freebsd.org>, "jenkins-admin@freebsd.org" <jenkins-admin@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Create freebsd-testing-results@ list for Jenkins results? Message-ID: <E48CC4B8-E37B-4FEE-BFF1-16762AE79C1B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVfBxY0Kehgos%2ByiUKVh0%2BWWsGvR1wVWAOgQGQrm7i1aPA@mail.gmail.com> References: <56800B8F-E49D-4B8E-B975-EB16299C0028@gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfBxY0Kehgos%2ByiUKVh0%2BWWsGvR1wVWAOgQGQrm7i1aPA@mail.gmail.com>
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--Apple-Mail=_0AE6A284-F859-4544-8E4E-F4BBDB8AE04E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On May 20, 2015, at 23:32, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Yes, I am opposed to this. >=20 > The minute you push these email notifications to a separate list, > then the whole utility of Jenkins goes down, because most people won't > be subscribe to the list. >=20 > The whole point of running a CI system like Jenkins is to = unfortunately be > a bit annoying > and "in your face". FreeBSD doesn't have a QA department to triage > failures and notify > developers, so sending e-mails to > targeted lists is important. As it is, FreeBSD people don't subscribe = to > all the same lists, so no matter what, > you can't make everyone happy. >=20 > At this link: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/current-stable.html >=20 > it mentions that bulletins about the state of the FreeBSD-CURRENT = branch > go to the freebsd-current@ list. So that's why it is OK for e-mail > notifications > from the old Tinderbox or Jenkins to go to that list. >=20 > I have received e-mails privately thanking me for setting this stuff = up. > Some folks (who are not FreeBSD committers) monitor lists like > freebsd-current@, > and when they see Jenkins failure e-mails > on the list, that gives them a clue that they should hold off on = updating > the tree. >=20 > So freebsd-current@ is used to notifiy committers *and* non-committers > about the > state of the branch. >=20 > jenkins is already configured to send e-mails to several lists, such = as > freebsd-current, freebsd-stable, freebsd-doc, freebsd-i386, depending = on > the build job, > so we don't send every e-mail to freebsd-current for all the builds = that we > do. >=20 > So Jenkins is doing its job, even if it annoys some people and makes = some > people > like Steve Kargl unhappy. >=20 > What we can consider doing is reducing the number of lines in the = e-mall > notification, > to prevent very large e-mails from being sent to the list. There may = be > tunables > in Jenkins that we can look at for this. That is worth exploring. >=20 > No matter what, you can't make everyone happy with build break = e-mails. >=20 > However, pushing them off to the side is not the direction we should = be > going in. Right. The only thing is that it=92s a bit easier to parse out = test break emails if they all went to a single email list. I=92d love to = do this personally, but I see pros and cons for this approach. Thanks :)! -NGie --Apple-Mail=_0AE6A284-F859-4544-8E4E-F4BBDB8AE04E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVXXyLAAoJEMZr5QU6S73enlEH/imFdjeEdfcTbADTm0o6wkdW Zk9kKf+e6r4LRm8zhF+PhIqCPQtH9+BFjBwyamRBAbKRJR/MSeVUIvv4SIxn1jsv WWcr20bhWwRzk5YEjVdFTPfCoCRPHOAO2uDeuGIHRr3YaU2GtSvtpR/uyOuppgGj Jz+KH98nYHJ4X1EuSL8+q1+DNvVtIM4YUL5PFjXFlIL2S+knIpZHn3IHMu7h8D3I XZIrAQNqntDd/fRnXxP2QLr578bJfSA6Y5q/PpGyXrt2IWbFD2AWM+yn7gBI8nAV Ze3sOtKiD7YJa9A9wANTAUMlfxd3zvyXfqqpQ8PZEIqOfixHH6jMGNFsqP/O+e0= =KIrH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0AE6A284-F859-4544-8E4E-F4BBDB8AE04E--
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