Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:54:50 -0400 From: "YoctoGram" <yoctogram@gmail.com> To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: Shteryana Shopova <syrinx@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Leidinger <netchild@FreeBSD.org>, "Constantine A. Murenin" <cnst@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: I backed out the sensors framework Message-ID: <01fb01c80ff3$be1f48d0$6401a8c0@Mewtwo> References: <12473.1192537588@critter.freebsd.dk>
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> Now, who are you, and what is your role in this ? Well, I'm just a BSD OS lurker/fan. I really like netBSD. But the FreeBSD ZFS port caught my attention lately (despite the on going ZFS lawsuit). Thanks for the clarifications, and I apologise for the disruption. Based on the following: >> If you compare at NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD, you will find a quite >> visible difference in the architectural attitude the projects take >> to various problems. I had the feelings that the 'backed out' was motivated by "BSD politics" rather than tech merits. // Yocto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> To: "YoctoGram" <yoctogram@gmail.com> Cc: "Shteryana Shopova" <syrinx@FreeBSD.org>; <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>; "Alexander Leidinger" <netchild@FreeBSD.org>; "Constantine A. Murenin" <cnst@FreeBSD.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: I backed out the sensors framework > In message <019901c80fe8$3cb62b20$6401a8c0@Mewtwo>, "YoctoGram" writes: >>> If it is biased, it is biased against the code and not the person(s). >> >>I'm sorry, but who are you to decide? > > A fair question I guess. > > I am undisputedly the person who has been most active in FreeBSD > kernel development for the longest time. > > I have severely cleaned up the VFS system and the attached filesystems, > written DEVFS, GEOM, a widely acclaimed implementation of malloc(3), > the timekeeping code, a disk encryption facility, large parts of > the FreeBSD release building and installation code, from scratch. > Add to that a bunch of device drivers and various other stuff. > > In terms of raw numbers, the FreeBSD CVS repo statistics say that > I have made 4707 commits to the kernel, 25% more than number two > on that list. If you add in the 2367 commits I have made to the > rest of the source code, you will find that on average, I have, on > average, committed something to FreeBSD every 17h20m, over the last > 14 years. > > I have also been the FreeBSD release engineer and a core team member, > for far longer time than is good for any persons sanity, and have, > through insight, reasoning, argument, manipulation, deceit and > downright trickery been instrumental in getting FreeBSD to where > it is now. > > That of course does not mean that I get to make decisions in a > vacuum, or "just because", that's not how FreeBSD works. But it > does have a tendency to give my opinion some weight. > > I am also coincidentally, the perpetrator behind the "bikeshed.org" > meme. > > > Now, who are you, and what is your role in this ? > > >>Who did accept and approved this project in the first place? > > Google and the FreeBSD SoC mentors I pressume ? > >>Why should Google be spending any more money on "approved" FreeBSD SoC... >>if, at the end, it get "backed out" ? > > Ahh, but you seem to labour under the misunderstanding that SoC is > a fast path to the FreeBSD source tree. That is not the case. > > Being approved for SoC means that the project is a good project for > SoC, it does not imply that the code will end up in a FreeBSD release. > > As far as I have kept score, only around half of the SoC projects > end up being imported in CVS, and usually only after significant > more work. > > That is still an impressive score by all means, and I fully support > the SoC programme: how I wish such an opportunity had existed when > I was younger. > >>So, if there was a problem with "the code"... why didn't you (or any of >>the >>FreeBSD leaders) took action(s) sooner? > > I did, and people didn't pay sufficient attention. > > Poul-Henning > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by > incompetence. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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