Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 08:50:49 -0500 From: Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com> To: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> Cc: "freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: 13.0 packages? Message-ID: <bbfe83da-16f0-98cf-25ca-e36684ada39e@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <050d9b25-772f-4dc8-d92d-d6cd70f0c376@gmail.com> References: <b4cbbffd-1d95-ff4e-2608-9633581dadd4@gmail.com> <9FF7E0E7-E666-443C-8CA7-C031EBE60BF6@yahoo.com> <200faa1c-6153-1e2f-d3a1-f76eaf83284a@gmail.com> <FE25B1E8-9D46-4162-93C8-D3F219DA7F8E@yahoo.com> <050d9b25-772f-4dc8-d92d-d6cd70f0c376@gmail.com>
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On 5/29/21 3:07 PM, Jason Bacon wrote: > On 5/28/21 11:49 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> >> On 2021-May-28, at 17:52, Jason Bacon <bacon4000 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 5/26/21 9:40 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> On 2021-May-20, at 17:26, Jason Bacon <bacon4000 at gmail.com> wrote= : >>>>> What's the plan for 13.0 powerpc64 packages? >>>>> >>>>> I have a Mac G5 I was using for port testing, but since upgrading=20 >>>>> to 13.0-RELEASE, there haven't been any binary packages for it. =20 >>>>> Building everything from source takes too long. >>>> https://pkg.freebsd.org has a link to: >>>> =E2=80=A2 FreeBSD:13:powerpc64 (=20 >>>> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD%3A13%3Apowerpc64 ) >>>> There the dates on things indicate that quarterly is newer >>>> than latest. meta.txz is reported as having date/time: >>>> 2021-May-20 07:07 >>>> (as seen in the time zone I'm in). >>>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org shows that jail 130powerpc64 started >>>> building on Tue, 18 May 2021 21:01:05 GMT and reached stopped:done: >>>> status, taking an elapsed time of 34:06:48 . It also reports that >>>> the server was: pylon . >>>> But the linked page: >>>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds/default:quarterly:130powerpc64= :cdf5bfe36fe5:pylon=20 >>>> >>>> reports only 1976 ports built of the only 4340 that were queued >>>> for that specific build. >>>> There was another jail that built far more: 130releng-powerpc64 is >>>> indicated to have built 23522 of the 30700 queued. It is listed >>>> as started on Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:51 GMT, having reached a >>>> status of stopped:crashed:, with an elapsed time of 73:28:43 . >>>> Also pylon. >>>> It appears that http://pylon.nyi.freebsd.org is not currently >>>> accessible. This limits what can be investigated. >>>> I would guess that: >>>> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:powerpc64/quarterly/packagesite.t= xz >>>> would give a clue what should be accessible via quarterly. >>>> It is listed as being 6058988 Bytes in size. >>>> =3D=3D=3D >>>> Mark Millard >>>> marklmi at yahoo.com >>>> ( dsl-only.net went >>>> away in early 2018-Mar) >>> >>> Thanks for the status update.=C2=A0 I'm actually more curious about t= he=20 >>> intentions for the future, though.=C2=A0 Are there plans to build cur= rent=20 >>> and/or quarterly packages for 13.0 on a regular rotation?=C2=A0 Is it= just=20 >>> a matter of manpower and hardware to get it rolling? >> >> I've no direct knowledge. My only clue is evidence left behind. >> >> The existing pylon package-builds include recent attempts >> (this month) and older ones: >> >> git context: >> quarterly 130powerpc64=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Tue, = 18 May 2021 21:01:05 GMT=C2=A0 34:06:48 >> quarterly 122powerpc64=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Tue, = 18 May 2021 02:34:32 GMT=C2=A0 18:26:26 >> default=C2=A0=C2=A0 main-powerpc64=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Sat, = 08 May 2021 08:16:21 GMT=C2=A0 42:38:52 >> >> svn context: >> quarterly 130releng-powerpc64 Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:51 GMT=C2=A0 73:5= 7:51 >> quarterly 121powerpc64=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Sat, = 23 Jan 2021 02:59:07 GMT=C2=A0 73:28:43 >> default=C2=A0=C2=A0 head-powerpc64=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Tue, = 22 Dec 2020 18:07:32 GMT 157:13:50 >> default=C2=A0=C2=A0 120powerpc64=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 Tue, 24 Mar 2020 21:37:02 GMT=C2=A0 01:25:55 >> >> That is all that >> >> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds?server=3Dpylon >> >> shows. It suggests specific single attempts to build: >> >> quarterly=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 for 13.0 and 12.2 >> default [so: latest] for main [so: 14] >> >> as well as a specific quarterly to go with release/13.0.0 's >> distribution (built in early April). (I ignore older here.) >> >> But it also makes clear that there are fairly long periods >> between attempts, so regular builds of updated ports have not >> been part of the activity so far. >> >> So far as I know, all the above are Big Endian for the >> context and target, no little endian jails (yet?). >> >> pylon does seem to still be inaccessible (for looking at build >> logs and the like). >> >> >>> Will support for big-endian wane as the focus shifts to LE? >> >> I'm not aware of evidence left behind beyond the absence >> of any little endian jails in the list. If it goes that >> direction, it likely would take some time for little >> endian to become primary. >> >> >> FYI: >> With old PowerMac failures and other issues, my powerpc64 >> and 32-bit powerpc activity has largely stopped: it was >> only PowerMac based. >> >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> marklmi at yahoo.com >> ( dsl-only.net went >> away in early 2018-Mar) >> >=20 > Well, the quarterly status report from May 5 lists "Setup powerpc=20 > pkgbuilder/ref/universal machines" under works in progress, but doesn't= =20 > provide any more info than that. >=20 > I'm hoping to see current packages built for 13.0 at some point.=C2=A0 = That=20 > would enable me to resume port testing on my Mac G5. >=20 Just checked again and the situation has improved. pkg search '.*' | wc is showing 28k packages in quarterly and 22k in=20 current. Still no git in current, but quarterly is better than nothing for most=20 port testing, despite the occasional API incompatibility. --=20 Earth is a beta site.
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