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Date:      Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:18:53 +0200
From:      Kai Voigt <k@123.org>
To:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
Cc:        Kai Voigt <k@123.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.1-STABLE, make world problems, funny case
Message-ID:  <20000928001853.A1920@abc.123.org>
In-Reply-To: <v0422080bb5f230dfb505@[10.0.1.2]>; from blk@skynet.be on Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:09:17PM %2B0200
References:  <20000923082602.A39467@abc.123.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009230130570.63170-100000@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000923112305.C39467@abc.123.org> <20000923112552.D39467@abc.123.org> <v0422080bb5f230dfb505@[10.0.1.2]>

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Hello,

Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 11:25 AM +0200 2000/9/23, Kai Voigt wrote:
> 
> >  I just found /usr/ports/sysutils/memtest/ and hope to find that bit.
> 
> 	Sadly, most memory testing utilities don't find problems like 
> this.  It seems to be a conjunction of lots of I/O and heavy stress 
> placed on memory that trips things like this up -- precisely the sort 
> of thing you get during a "make world", but precisely the sort of 
> thing that you don't find with a memory tester.

Plus userland tools cannot report exactly what is wrong.  memtest86 is
a nice dos tool that helps in that case.

> 	I believe that the regular suggestion is to try a "make world" 
> with half of your regular memory installed.  If that works 
> (repeatedly), then try it with the other half.  If one fails and the 
> other succeeds, then you've narrowed down which half the bad memory 
> is in.  You swap out half of the suspect memory with the good memory, 
> and you try again.  If the test succeeds, then you know the part you 
> swapped out contains the bad memory.
> 
> 	Repeat this process until you've found the SIMMs or DIMMs that 
> repeatedly cause failure, while removing them allows things to work 
> normally.

I removed all the SIMMs and gave the motherboard a big amount of air to
get rid of the dust.  Then I inserted the SIMMs again and now everything
seems to be fine.  "make world" and building a kernel worked without any
problems.

Thanks for all the hints.  I wish we could get rid of hardware and make
everything on software :)

Kai

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