Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger <georgreilinger@yahoo.de> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-ID: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
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Hi everybody, My issue is the following: As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in assuming this? I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after having turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk... As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system running with KDE 3.5 once again: 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version. Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html This is something that I don't really feel like doing. 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? Is that be possible? Any other solutions? Many thanks Georg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 01:37:13 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A194FE14 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4D4238 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:37:04 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.163] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:37:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:37:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t58473023; bh=Fnt6lNAtbuPlbebR5nZWLj2cVomfg0nMA9W7pweEzAs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=nFvePqAGiGsoMA2mFFAdmeFqLizIenENXyPZhCOjfsoOEPQwRGadMa0c6OJZ2b4crPOgSqE10clD6WEEKihfjMZPL3ocFWUxPV+DLoL/ri8rnN4BXwWShhnStZO/YdtPUxUkBj+GzCg+rdFenpqJjXiX6SdTwD+eft1RI8l4aTwX-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 698979.21726.bm@smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ni3vS5sVM1mpmdOpkpRTNF7N47VNkXOptzRU_cv223NBYG4 0IgKrNVVvDzdM5CvtGOydMIKudXpSN8odtMLYtm0F1YFZmBFeKQMNEorkBWZ xgJTawM84Kn7gHGenPyCehkee45UWQYz.2lBGCaM96KYEuZdNdRxLDY0Nl9E aTTnnIy_hoe2ysNgqfJnAyL5qhFdGXL.b1.yVl3cjlX8vfJuAOxtRMRhWu64 ASrK0azbEOIET2RcLyvXI9MqIKrzGM6xAvqrFSCZQPz7.PDYb6mTJMD5BxN2 pSOAwFEcWtnFLPTU0EDy.fG92qSAMlGKTBBe5ZrMZZmSWBMUOo55pcM5g0DO _4h4mDydvV.Hpl66X4EbLZeJnCDWAq.J2yvjpR7XdcW381KKji5AhU6KPest NSNR3_c9ZcLP3V9iDjeolvtnGb_E1.XTXz5xy5olmFEWobQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.209.164 with login) by smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 17:37:03 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:37:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> Message-ID: <op.wq22r1syuwjkcr@freebsd> In-Reply-To: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:37:13 -0000 Some decisions from upstream are a PITA. I'm from Linux, it's more up-to-date than FreeBSD. On Linux I switched from KDE 3 to GNOME 2, when KDE 4 was introduced and from GNOME 2 to Xfce, when GNOME 3 was introduced. There are forks of GNOME 2, but I guess there's no fork of KDE 3. Some users claim that it should be possible to set up KDE 4, that it become equal to KDE 3. I doubt that. Another issue are hard dependencies, such as the dependency to the buggy pulseaudio. You better get rid of KDE and start to accustom to another DE. 2 Cents, Ralf
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