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Date:      Wed, 04 Dec 2024 19:58:41 +0100
From:      Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net>
To:        Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Rick Summerhill <rrsum@summerhill.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: hypermail
Message-ID:  <004b6441c4d6a8616ad3820f2c3eeaa1@mail.infomaniak.com>
In-Reply-To: <ED4581D8-7166-4BA3-883A-17BD29F2FEDE@freebsd.org>
References:  <85403440-a058-4f65-bf7b-d6dd08bd28c1@summerhill.org> <ED4581D8-7166-4BA3-883A-17BD29F2FEDE@freebsd.org>

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On 2024-12-03T17:38:16.000+01:00, Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org>
wrote:=


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=C2=A0Rick=C2=A0Summerhill=C2=A0<rrsum@summerhill.org>
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>=C2=A0Moin

Hi,

Ongoing project in several distros but =
some "desirable" projects have
yet to migrate.

See links below for e=
xample:

https://archlinux.org/todo/move-to-pcre2/

https://fedorap=
roject.org/wiki/Changes/PcreDeprecation

Best regards,

Daniel


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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif; font-size: 14px">On 2024-12-03T17:38:16.000+01:00, Moin Rahman =
&lt;bofh@freebsd.org&gt; wrote:<br></div><div ><div><br></div></div><div st=
yle=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 14px"><br></div><div class=3D"ik_mail_quote answerContentMessage"><bloc=
kquote class=3D"ws-ng-quote"><pre style=3D"white-space: normal;"><blockquot=
e class=3D"ws-ng-quote"><div>  On Dec 2, 2024, at 19:12, Rick Summerhill &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:rrsum@summerhill.org" class=3D"defaultMailLink">rrsum@s=
ummerhill.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I use hypermail=
 to display my mlmmj archives to the web.  It depends on pcre, which report=
s eol:<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Checking for packages with security v=
ulnerabilities:<br></div><div> pcre-8.45_4: Tag: deprecated Value: EOLed by=
 upstream, use devel/pcre2 instead<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Is the in=
tension to update hypermail to pcre2 aand if so, is there  a timeframe?<br>=
</div><div> <br></div><div> --<br></div><div> Rick<br></div><div> <br></div=
></blockquote><div> <br></div><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Once up=
on a time portmgr@ decided to gradually move on to pcre2 as pcre1<br></div>=
<div>has been deprecated. At that time there were some discussions about th=
e<br></div><div>removal date but so far it was found that with pcre2 is slo=
wer compared<br></div><div>to pcre and hence it will take a longer time tha=
n expected to move on to<br></div><div>pcre2. Hence it was decided to mark =
pcre as deprecated but without any<br></div><div>expiration date. Which mea=
ns that porters will look into possibility if<br></div><div>their ports sup=
port pcre2 by upstream without any performance loss and<br></div><div>if so=
 they should utilize pcre2 instead of pcre1.<br></div><div><br></div><div>S=
o far my experience despite being deprecated it is a long time till it<br><=
/div><div>will come to end to be removed from the tree. To conclude to answ=
er<br></div><div>your question check upstream if they support it otherwise =
the ports are<br></div><div>safe.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards=
,<br></div><div>Moin<br></div></pre></blockquote></div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px">Hi,=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 14px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica =
Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px">Ongoing project in se=
veral distros but some "desirable" projects have yet to migrate.<br></div><=
div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 14px">See links below for example:<br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-s=
erif; font-size: 14px"><a href=3D"https://archlinux.org/todo/move-to-pcre2/=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" data-ik=3D"ik-secure">https=
://archlinux.org/todo/move-to-pcre2/</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-family=
: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px"><a href=
=3D"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PcreDeprecation" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" data-ik=3D"ik-secure">https://fedoraproject.=
org/wiki/Changes/PcreDeprecation</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'H=
elvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 14px">Best regards,<br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica=
 Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px">Daniel<br></div></bo=
dy></html>


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