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Date:      Sun, 26 Aug 2001 11:41:16 +0100
From:      Kevin Golding <kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk>
To:        Dan Look <dan@electriccheese.com>
Cc:        ITServices@cableinet.co.uk, Conrad Sabatier <conrads@home.com>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, joel2a@yahoo.com
Subject:   Re: Microsoft bashers
Message-ID:  <ARB03pBMJNi7Ew1y@caomhin.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <01082601582601.00417@wolverine.pandora.be>
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In message <01082601582601.00417@wolverine.pandora.be>, Dan Look
<dan@electriccheese.com> writes
>The first GUI's were developed at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Centre) (or
>so I've allways been told). And then first brought to public attention by Apple
>(mostly).
>
>I guess the early internet/arpanet ran mostly on Unix but I beleive TCP/IP was
>developed with cross platform compatability specifically in mind.
>
>And yes it's true, up untill around '95 MS had little or no interest in the
>'net.

Not even then really, they wanted to go the AOL/Compuserve route and
offer a proprietary network, it was only after MSN flopped that it
became more of a true ISP.

However it isn't completely outrageous to suggest that some of these
things would be as big or popular.  Whether we like it or not MS have
actually done quite a bit for computer evangelism, and that's a good
term for it.  Think of Bill as one of those dodgy TV[1] evangelists,
sure, it's good that he gets people seeing the appeal of things, it's
just a shame he's too busy lining his pockets.

Anyway, today's embrace and extend URI is....
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/ce/tools/source/license.asp

Kevin

[1] as in Television okay! :-)

>> On 25 Aug 01, at 15:03, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > On 04-Aug-2001 joel2a@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > Well I just have to say that if there wasn't Windows we would all be
>> > > back the days of console prompt typing and there certainly would not be
>> > > as many people on the internet.
>> > 
>> > Anyone who begins a post with a statement as absurdly ridiculous as this
>> > deserves only one of two things (or both): to be ignored or killfiled.
>> > 
>> 
>> Joel, if history wasn't the way it is, it would be different.  That does 
>> not preclude development of the internet nor something like 
>> Windows but different.  And the internet started as Unix, IIRC.  
>> Until recently Bill Gates was on public record as saying that the 
>> internet was not going to be important ... even the devil can be 
>> wrong  ;-))  And I do believe that GUIs were invented elsewhere and 
>> Microsoft copied and <gasp of disbelief> even purloined some of 
>> the code.  Though I stand to be corrected about that.

-- 
kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk

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