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Date:      Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:15:29 -0300 (ADT)
From:      The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        Kal Torak <kaltorak@quake.com.au>
Cc:        Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>, Jonathan Belson <jon@witchspace.com>, FreeBSD-stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: nVidia Cards /w FreeBSD (3D Acceleration)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.33.0104111614220.72136-100000@mobile.hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <3AD4AB28.EA342EC0@quake.com.au>

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On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote:

> Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kal Torak" <kaltorak@quake.com.au>
> > To: "The Hermit Hacker" <scrappy@hub.org>
> > Cc: "Jonathan Belson" <jon@witchspace.com>; "FreeBSD-stable"
> > <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: nVidia Cards /w FreeBSD (3D Acceleration)
> >
> > > [...]
> > > nVidia cards are really the ONLY choice to buy now... Not that Im
> > complaining,
> > > they are good cards, we just need some support for the more recent
> > ones!
> >
> > nVidia won't release the source code nor let people outside nVidia
> > work freely on hardware accelerated OpenGL drivers, so the cards of
> > choice for FreeBSD systems probably are ATi Rage 128, ATi Radeon,
> > Matrox G4x0 or Intel based cards since those manufacturers have laid
> > the development of non-windows accelerated drives completely into the
> > hands of the DRI team (by contracting VA Linux systems, formerly known
> > as Precision Insight). Ofcourse, the DRI team is developing the kernel
> > modules for Linux, but at least, the modules are open source, which
> > makes them portable.
>
> And yet DRI isnt yet fully working under FreeBSD... Not last I looked
> anyway!
>
> nVidia cards are currently the best... We need to have support for them!
> Apparently the BeOS drivers were made by a 3rd party, I dont know that
> for sure, but if they were... Why cant we make some for FreeBSD?
>
> Or if nVidia made them surly there would be enough people using FreeBSD
> that have nVidia based cards that they would make a port? I dont see why
> they wont make there drivers open source...
>
> They must provide the win32 source to the card manufacturers, since nVidia
> based cards often come with drivers supplied by the company... Anyway,
> whatever the case we need those drivers for FreeBSD :)

Ya, but, the nVidia drivers supplied by the manufacturers are most likely
under a very heavy NDA ... just look at the headaches that (god, I forget
his name, sorry *sigh*) is going through with the whole Sun/JDK isue, and
that is supposed to be "Open Source Software", no?



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