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Date:      Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:37:10 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Jeffrey S. Sharp" <jss@subatomix.com>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        W Gerald Hicks <jhix@mindspring.com>, Albert Yang <albert@achtung.com>, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The heart of the problem
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007251027130.8871-100000@lepton.subatomix.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000725162648.A18036@mithrandr.moria.org>

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> On Tue 2000-07-25 (08:46), Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote:
> > * I believe that the current Pico kit needs to be thrown out and replaced
> > with something entirely new.
> > 
> > * Having made my own "Tiny" variant, I believe that I have a darn good
> > candidate for 'something entirely new'. :)
> 
> What do you think of the make(1)-based system in picobsd/custom at the
> moment, and the Patrick's extensions to it (advertised a few days ago,
> which I haven't had the necessary time to look at yet).

I think it's a step in the right direction, but not general enough.  It's
still too highly tied to floppy format and having an mfs root 
filesystem.  The ideal successor/upgrade to PicoBSD would make these kinds
of fundamental changes simple.

> I can't imagine there's a better approach than a make(1)-based system,
> like the rest of the build.  The power of our make(1) build systems
> (ports, release, world, and now doc) is one of FreeBSD's great
> strengths.

Right.  My TinyBSD variant is also make-based -- just with a config script
to read .conf files and generate the makefiles for you.

> Actually, while we're at it, can we get a list of the small FreeBSD kits
> and their URLs?

You can find my version 0.1 at the following address.  Watch out, because
it's old, rough, and not entirely representative of my kit's current
status (which is much better :).

http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/S/Jeffrey.S.Sharp-1/

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Jeffrey S. Sharp   (XorAxAx)
jss@subatomix.com

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