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Date:      Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:26:41 +0100
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server
Message-ID:  <4EF4B9D1.8010900@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
In-Reply-To: <20111223152452.GA21957@icarus.home.lan>
References:  <xf5fxrkpagw2qf65tk9y2njf.1324492907631@email.android.com> <4EF3C0CE.5040802@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111222235846.GA6071@icarus.home.lan> <201112231000.05712.jhb@freebsd.org> <20111223152452.GA21957@icarus.home.lan>

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On 12/23/11 16:24, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:00:05AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:58:46 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:44:14AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote:
>>>> On 12/21/11 19:41, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> while the discussion continued here, some work started at some othe=
r=20
>> place. Now... in case someone here is willing to help instead of talki=
ng, feel=20
>> free to go to http://wiki.freebsd.org/BenchmarkAdvice and have a look =
what can=20
>> be improved. The page is far from perfect and needs some additional pe=
ople=20
>> which are willing to improve it.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is only part of the problem. A tuning page in the wiki - which=
=20
>> could be referenced from the benchmark page - would be great too. Any =

>> volunteers? A first step would be to take he tuning-man-page and wikif=
y it.=20
>> Other tuning sources are welcome too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every FreeBSD dev with a wiki account can hand out write access to =
the=20
>> wiki. The benchmark page gives contributor-access. If someone wants wr=
ite=20
>> access create a FirstnameLastname account and ask here for contributor=
-access.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry if you think your english is not good enough, even some=
 one-
>> word notes can help (and _my_ english got already corrected by other p=
eople on=20
>> the benchmark page).
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye,
>>>>> Alexander.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice to see movement ;-)
>>>>
>>>> But there seems something unclear:
>>>>
>>>> man make.conf(5) says, that  MALLOC_PRODUCTION is a knob set in
>>>> /etc/make.conf.
>>>> The WiJi says, MALLOC_PRODUCTION is to be set in /etc/src.conf.
>>>>
>>>> What's right and what's wrong now?
>>>
>>> I can say with certainty that this value belongs in /etc/make.conf
>>> (on RELENG_8 and earlier at least).
>>>
>>> src/share/mk/bsd.own.mk has no framework for MK_MALLOC_PRODUCTION,
>>> so, this is definitely a make.conf variable.
>>
>> Eh, normal make variables can go in src.conf as well.  They do not hav=
e
>> to be listed in bsd.own.mk.  World builds include /etc/src.conf wherea=
s
>> every make invocation includes /etc/make.conf via sys.mk.  The only re=
ason
>> to use /etc/src.conf is to have a place to put variables only affect
>> make buildworld / buildkernel but do not affect other make invocations=
=2E
>=20
> I was always under the impression src.conf(5) variables had to be
> manually added to bsd.own.mk and similar bits (e.g.
> src/tools/build/options/WITH_xxx which is what's used to create the
> src.conf(5) man page), but upon your comment and manual investigation o=
n
> my part, I found you're indeed right.  Taken from bsd.own.mk:
>=20
> 107 .if !defined(_WITHOUT_SRCCONF)
> 108 SRCCONF?=3D       /etc/src.conf
> 109 .if exists(${SRCCONF})
> 110 .include "${SRCCONF}"
> 111 .endif
> 112 .endif
>=20
> As long as third-party software doesn't depend on MALLOC_PRODUCTION for=

> something (I don't know why something would, but who knows; maybe
> there's a third-party malloc implementation which might?), then putting=

> it in src.conf would be fine (src/lib/libc/stdlib files reference it).
>=20

Then the manpage should reflect this. man src.conf does not show up
MALLOC_PRODUCTIOn, but man make.conf does. If the latter is right, then
it should be worth mentioned that make.conf is incorporating src.conf.

Just a suggestion.

Regards,
Oliver


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