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Date:      Tue, 13 Jan 2026 10:34:13 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>, freebsd-test@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: gmane.os.freebsd.test and gmane.test sends: both fail from an independent context
Message-ID:  <d50f5253-e5e2-4a22-95c0-09845d4860f1@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20902b1c-1f93-4970-9d72-c65b4a0393a5@yahoo.com>

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On 1/13/26 09:19, Mark Millard wrote:
> Hello Anton,
> 
> 
> I've tried NewsTap on an iPad. It has no SMTP configuration ability but
> is supposed to allow posting. (My normal use is intended to be: reading.)
> 
> I'm unable to post from it as well, appearing to send but the post
> message never showing up. (Message reading is operational.)
> 
> NewsTap has a scroll-able log. After POST comes text like (hand typed here):
> 
> 340 Ok, recommended message-ID <10k5ocq$3gh$1@ciao.gmane.io>
> 240 Article received (mailed to moderator)
> 
> Maybe: Failure to pass the automatic moderation filtering that requires
> matching a subscription?
> 
> 
> Other notes:
> 
> For the groups I've added into NewsTap, after the description text for a
> group in this UI there always seems to be the text:
> 
> (Moderated) (read, moderated)
> 
> Some groups prefix that with:
> 
> (non-public)
> 
> others with:
> 
> (read-only)
> 
> Some have neither prefix.
> 
> 
> Note: a lot of those lines are longer than the UI presents, so there
> could sometimes be more text that I'm not seeing any example of.
> 
> 


Well, I have gotten my first double post from my experiments, proving
such is possible.

It is enough to indicate that I should not normally send both via
*@freebsd.org and via gmane.os.freebsd.* in one message/post.


There is a time offset. Thunderbird shows in Sent that I sent only once,
with time 09:19. The macOS mail Sent for my yahoo account also shows
09:19. The headers show :19 . The earliest such for the smtp/yahoo context:

"Original-Received:by hermes--production-gq1-86969b76cd-dndpf (Yahoo
Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) . . ." shows:
Tue, 13 Jan 2026 17:19:17 +0000 (UTC)

For the message that has "X-Injected-Via-Gmane:http://gmane.org/" . . .

"Original-Received from list by ciao.gmane.io . . ." shows:
Tue, 13 Jan 2026 18:17:43 +0100 .


Note: An attempted send to just gmane.os.freebsd.test (after the double
post resulted) has still not shown up. It is not like newsgroup sends to
examples of gmane.os.freebsd.* started working in general: Just rarely.
So far, all *@freebsd.org SMTP sends have gone through.


-- 
===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com


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