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Date:      Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:17:11 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger  <karl@mcs.net>
To:        mika ruohotie <bsdhack@shadows.aeon.net>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: "Best" Fast Ethernet Card
Message-ID:  <19980313141711.30263@mcs.net>
In-Reply-To: <199803132006.WAA10724@shadows.aeon.net>; from mika ruohotie on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:06:50PM %2B0200
References:  <199802260213.SAA16197@implode.root.com> <199803132006.WAA10724@shadows.aeon.net>

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On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:06:50PM +0200, mika ruohotie wrote:
> yaiks, i dont like being over 1200 messages behind on my mailing lists...
> 
> > >The SMC cards *ARE* DEC chipsets.
> >    The key word in the above is "new". The SMC9432TX uses the SMC83c170
> > chip, NOT the DEC chip. We have preliminary support for it in the 'tx'

Well, I got a bunch of INTEL PRO/100+s in..... 

Preliminary results are, well, impressive.

Autonegotiation (including FDX) actually works.
Its fast.
100BaseTX/FDX into an Intel 510T switch is even more impressive :-)

They also don't appear to be as "picky" about cables.  The SMC 10/100 cards
we have used for a long time would piss and moan about a cable once in a
while (usually manifesting itself as complaints about mangled packets and
bad CRCs).  Interestingly enough the Pro100+ doesn't seem to mind the same
cables (!) at all.  I don't know what that's about, other than perhaps 
better noise margins on the physical layer components.

> uh, i hate to answer my own questions... it appears to introduce
> itself as:
> 
> fxp0: <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 0x02 int a irq 10 on pci0.10.0

Note that the Pro/100+ *AS WELL AS* the newer SMC cards have serious trouble
with TYN EISA/PCI motherboards when run in 100BaseT mode.  It appears that 
the motherboard is unable to keep up *on receive* with the data stream;
the result is a lot of input errors and horrible performance.  Downshifting
those to 10Mbps fixes that (but obviously negates the point of a fast
ethernet card).  The same problem does *NOT* show up on the Natoma 
motherboards.  

No data on the LX motherboards yet - I'm testing some of those next week.

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